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#10921 - 02/16/11 09:46 PM Whitney Lottery Progress 2011
Steve C Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 7225
Loc: Fresno, CA
Mt. Whitney Lottery Progress Reports - 2011

January, 2012 update:  For 2012 permit lottery information, use these links:
    Mt Whitney Permit Reservations 2012
    2012 Whitney Permit Lottery information now available


April 27 update  For future reference, here are copies of the Calendars of dates available for the Whitney Main Trail as of April 20, 2011.        
                   Day Use Mt Whitney Zone             Overnight Mt Whitney trail

The links below are for the currently updated versions

April 4 update  The Calendar of Dates with permits still available after the lottery processing has completed is now posted,
...for Day Hikes:   Day Use Mt Whitney Zone
...for overnight backpack trips:   Overnight Mt Whitney trail

March 31 update   is here.

March 24 update   is here.

March 10 update   is here.

Here's a related thread:  Fighting Permit angst.. alternate trip suggestions?

Lottery Application Information:  Mt. Whitney Lottery Application 2011

Inyo National Forest posted an update, March 24:  Lottery progress as of March 24, 2011

Quote:
Lottery progress as of February 16, 2011.
All dates are currently available.
Deadline to apply: postmark of March 15, 2011
New arrivals will be stirred into the box each day.
This year's lottery, so far:

4,894 Mail Received
4,643 Accepted into the Box
251 Rejected
81 Reservations Made
0 Applications Not Successful


Last Year's Success Rate: 54.7%
7,333 Applications

What happens to any left over space?
There is a freeze on reservation transactions from March 15 to April 20, while people receive their lottery results and any errors are resolved.
Any remaining space and space from cancellations will be added back to the calendar of available dates after April 1. If you wish to add to your group size, or change dates you can reserve the remaining space in the end of April.
      For trips starting in May, June & July; apply April 20, 2011
      For trips starting August, September & October; apply April 27, 2011

We can NOT report on the status of your application. It is impossible to find or intercept an application at this time. Results will be sent by mail.

Thanks from all the staff,
Wilderness Permit Reservations Office

How do we do it?

Applications are stirred into random order .....
and put in a big box.

After February 15, we begin making reservations from applications drawn at random.

Late arrivals are added to the box each day.

As each application is drawn, a reservation is made
if quota space is still available for the entry date and
the group size you requested.

Expect notification of results by mail ...after April 1st



Note #2:  For a look at how they process the applications, see this thread:
    Look who has her hand in the cookie jar...

The 2010 Lottery Progress thread is here.


Edited by Steve C (01/03/12 09:07 PM)

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#10936 - 02/17/11 11:36 AM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: Steve C]
Brent N Offline


Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 278
Loc: Orange County, CA
I'm eager for any news. Thanks for posting.

Brent N

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#11045 - 02/22/11 07:41 PM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: Steve C]
Steve C Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 7225
Loc: Fresno, CA

Here is an update:

Quote:
Lottery progress as of February 22, 2011.

Some dates in July and August are starting to fill up.
Deadline to apply: postmark of March 15, 2011

New arrivals will be stirred into the box each day.
This year's lottery, so far:

6,021 Mail Received
5,698 Accepted into the Box
326 Rejected
1,451 Reservations Made
17 Applications Not Successful


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#11058 - 02/23/11 11:36 AM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: Steve C]
Joel M. Baldwin Offline


Registered: 11/02/09
Posts: 56
Loc: Sacramento Ca USA
326 rejected

What are some of the causes for these rejections?
Am I correct in thinking that an attempt for a reservation isn't even made for these rejected entries?

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#11060 - 02/23/11 12:13 PM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: Joel M. Baldwin]
Steve C Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 7225
Loc: Fresno, CA
I would imagine an application with no check and no credit card info (or no signature, etc with the credit card) is rejected.

They probably return the applications.

Maybe I can get more info....

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#11069 - 02/23/11 05:12 PM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: Steve C]
quillansculpture Offline


Registered: 11/13/09
Posts: 552
Loc: Murrieta, CA
No CC hit yet :-(
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#11112 - 02/25/11 11:45 AM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: quillansculpture]
Brent N Offline


Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 278
Loc: Orange County, CA
It was around this time last year that people started reporting credit card hits. I took a quick look at our summary of expenses that Wells Fargo posted today on the website. Running my eyes down the list I saw "Whitney" and for a microsecond of rapture, I thought I had confirmation of a succesful Whitney lottery, but in my skimming over the entries, the Whitney that I saw was for our piano teacher named Whitney.

Back to waiting.

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#11116 - 02/25/11 01:04 PM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: Brent N]
NJ hiker Offline


Registered: 02/18/11
Posts: 74
Loc: Northern NJ
Brent, I feel your pain...good story and thanks for sharing
I am trying to look at my expenses very casually, sort of peeking, just in case....

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#11120 - 02/25/11 04:38 PM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: NJ hiker]
lynn-a-roo Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
Posts: 627
Loc: OrangeCounty
Steve,

Thank you for the lottery update.

I and my friends applied for mid-September. We're keeping our fingers crossed.

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#11136 - 02/26/11 09:31 AM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: lynn-a-roo]
quillansculpture Offline


Registered: 11/13/09
Posts: 552
Loc: Murrieta, CA
Hi Lynn, You should have no problem in mid Sept. If not, a walk in should be a piece of cake. Let me know your dates.....I LOVE September on Whitney.

No hit yet for me :-(
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#11137 - 02/26/11 09:49 AM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: quillansculpture]
Bee Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 1261
Loc: Northern California
I could not agree more with the September season being choice (I am too lazy to do the lottery, so walk-in is my method). Unless a person enjoys high fiving others on the switchbacks every two seconds (not!!! unless it is CatPappy passing by) the further you get away from summer, the better. I have never been on the mountain during high season (out of two times) and I STILL thought that the place was over-crowded (hey, I am spoiled; I am used to seeing one or two people at the most)
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#11138 - 02/26/11 10:10 AM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: Bee]
catpappy Offline


Registered: 03/06/10
Posts: 120
Loc: acworth, ga
I'll second that thought on September travel. Mosquitos gone, lighning storms on the decrease, less folks, cooler temps. Wait to late though, and you'll be flirting with snowfall. I didn't put in for a permit this year also. May travel out around my b'day 9/25 and do Miter Basin again.

John

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#11139 - 02/26/11 10:37 AM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: Joel M. Baldwin]
Steve C Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 7225
Loc: Fresno, CA
Originally Posted By: Joel M. Baldwin
326 rejected

What are some of the causes for these rejections?
Am I correct in thinking that an attempt for a reservation isn't even made for these rejected entries?

I sent a query and here's the report:

About half are payment related, and most common:
Checks dated 2010, made out to wrong payee, dollar amount incorrect for group size.

A surprising number just forget to put essential information, like trip dates or the group size. Even a few with no address, no phone, no email...

Now here's a problem...
If the federal budget gets shut down, the workers get furloughed. All lottery work would halt, and it would be a tough time for those laid off.

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#11142 - 02/26/11 12:08 PM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: Steve C]
tdtz Offline


Registered: 08/26/10
Posts: 511
Loc: CA
no hit on my CC yet....I put in for a variety of dates in July in August. My wife decided that a trip to Hawaii was required this year, so that is impacting my Whitney schedule. I put in for a party of 6.....of which two people have already bailed...LOL. If I wasn't bringing my son on this trip, I would just go for the September hike. Which I am going to do again anyway as a walk-in solo.

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#11165 - 02/27/11 09:59 AM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: Steve C]
Jrod8 Offline


Registered: 02/27/11
Posts: 24
Loc: California
I'm New here!....didn't get accepted through the lottery system last year, hoping for the best this year for a group of only 2! I was much more flexible this year and got it in much earlier (before the 15th)....I keep watching my bank account for a hit, but nothing yet! Good luck all!

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#11210 - 03/01/11 06:49 AM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: Jrod8]
John Lavey Offline


Registered: 02/28/11
Posts: 2
Loc: United States
Due to a recent attempted breach on my credit card...had a new card issued by the bank. I thought for sure this would "reject" my lottery application, but I talked to Nicole today and she advises (if I'm successful) they will call first (to get a different credit card #)....this alone will not disqualify me from getting a permit
Whew!

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#11211 - 03/01/11 07:27 AM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: John Lavey]
Steve C Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 7225
Loc: Fresno, CA
I have often wondered if people could put an incorrect CC number or expiration date or... to cause the lottery people to give you a call. That way, you would get a call informing you that you were successful. wink

But I'll bet they put those bad CC permit apps into a pile, and call the people AFTER all the valid CC's are charged.

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#11213 - 03/01/11 07:42 AM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: Steve C]
Bulldog34 Offline


Registered: 11/12/09
Posts: 1254
Loc: Atlanta
That eases my mind a lot. My bank just upgraded my VISA without my asking for it - and of course it's a new number. Replaces the VISA I used for the lottery app, and I was sure I'd get rejected if they tried to authorize the old number. Fingers crossed.

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#11326 - 03/04/11 11:49 AM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: Steve C]
John Lavey Offline


Registered: 02/28/11
Posts: 2
Loc: United States
Hi Steve, Any updates to the Whitney Lottery?

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#11328 - 03/04/11 01:45 PM Re: Whitney Lottery Progress 2011 [Re: John Lavey]
Steve C Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 7225
Loc: Fresno, CA
I'll post them as soon as I get them.

But about now, they are in the thick of the process, processing the applications and filling slots or rejecting them. If it is like years before, they don't actually start charging CC numbers or sending out notices until mid/late-March.

Rather than bother anyone, I'll just wait patiently, so they can get the work done as quickly as possible. If I don't hear later next week, I'll see what I can find out.

Edit: This thread continues to page 2


Edited by Steve C (03/20/11 12:31 PM)

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