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#15810 - 06/29/11 10:04 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXV11 [Re: wagga]
Harvey Lankford Offline


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I can tell that you guys know about rigid poles, too.

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#15817 - 06/29/11 12:31 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXV11 [Re: Harvey Lankford]
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Back to Peak b

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#15820 - 06/29/11 01:00 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXV11 [Re: Harvey Lankford]
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Nimble and quick, Jack jumped over the candle, uh, bamboo stick. Vaulted so high, he must have landed long after. TN was there in TD, and the Lt COlonel's son himself took the shot. 37=33.


Edited by saltydog (06/29/11 01:26 PM)
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#15822 - 06/29/11 01:29 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXV11 [Re: saltydog]
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once again ,salty is spot on

here is another picture, this time marked (more details later for those still pondering)


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#15837 - 06/29/11 04:30 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXV11 [Re: Harvey Lankford]
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much higher up, they found an ice axe of a missing pair.

Salty's Jack clues - I can add another. My Word.

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#15845 - 06/29/11 05:52 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXV11 [Re: Harvey Lankford]
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I've gotten TN - is this place close to where the world's highest cricket match was played?
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#15863 - 06/30/11 01:51 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXV11 [Re: wagga]
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Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXV11


no, not there.

salty took the huge clue of Peak b (first Western name for Everest) and ran with it - see his clues and mine.

Here is the rest of the story, modified from my manuscript that so far two wilderness/mountaineering journals have not been smart enough to accept:


The 1933 Fourth British Everest Expedition was perhaps most famous for climbing high on the mountain where an ice ax was found lending speculation as to what happened to Mallory and Irvine. Above Camp VI, Wyn Harris found an ice-axe that could only have been left or dropped there in 1924. The Willisch brand axe was identified later, by three nicks on the shaft, as probably belonging to Irvine. In addition they found, in the tent left by Mallory and Irvine, a torch that still worked after nine cold years (because it was dynamo-powered rather than a battery flashlight).

While there were no 1924 members returning, the 1933 team included leader Hugh Ruttledge, famed explorer Eric Shipton, climber-writer Frank Smythe, and perhaps a young Tenzing Norgay. One member less well-known to today's readers was John (Jack) Longland.

Jack Longland came to the 1933 expedition as the 28-year-old president of the Cambridge University Mountaineering Club and a rock climber of unparalleled reputation. Off the mountain, Longland lectured at Durham University until 1936 and became an influential figure in education, local government, and mountaineering circles. He was later the Question Master of the BBC radio quiz program "My Word!" for twenty years. Knighted for his educational services, Sir Jack was one of 3 judges for the very first Boardman-Tasker Prize (1983) when they decided not to award it at all, instead waiting until the following year for The Shishapangma Expedition by Doug Scott and Alex MacIntyre.

But before that....on the approach march from India through Tibet, something strange happened in 1933. That afternoon the first Olympiad in the history of Tengye Dzong was held amidst the utmost enthusiasm. It included some spectacular pole vaults by Jack Longland, an expert performer, the "pole" being a section of a wireless mast.

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#15866 - 06/30/11 03:48 AM What In The World Happened Here? XXXVIII [Re: wagga]
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What In The World Happened Here? XXXVIII: (38)

If you were sitting on this rather lovely verandah at the stroke of midnight on December 29th. of this year, exactly how many whole seconds +/- would elapse before the New Year rings in?

A biannual event which could have occurred today, but didn't, may affect the answer.

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#15867 - 06/30/11 03:57 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXVII [Re: wagga]
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it's 38.
the rest I don't know yet

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#15868 - 06/30/11 05:24 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXV11 [Re: Harvey Lankford]
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Originally Posted By: Harvey Lankford
Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXV11


salty took the huge clue of Peak b (first Western name for Everest) and ran with it - see his clues and mine.



Actually, I didn't. I was doing my running while the "went high" and Peak b clues were being posted.: Never saw them till I posted, and I have never heard of Peak b till now. Here's the real madness to my method: I surmised both "going high" and the Himalayas from the photo: obviously at elevation or desert from the terrain (I chose elevation because of the context) and a 30's era expedition from the attire. SO we have 30's, Himalayas, Trilbys and shorts, ergo British. Induced that the vault was some kind of diversion along the way , so I now I am looking for a Brit mountaineer who happens also to be a pole vaulter. More than enough key words to turn up Longland and the first Ruttlege expedition.

As for who else was there, even if you know Norgay's bio, and surmise that he must have been on this one, you probably don't come up with this expedition. Well known that Norgay was on every British Everest expedition from his first, but his own bios don't list this one. SO from "TN" , you start with 1935. If you find Ruttlege first, however, you find Norgay in 1933.


Edited by saltydog (06/30/11 05:26 AM)
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#15874 - 06/30/11 06:35 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXV11 [Re: saltydog]
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What In The World Happened Here? XXXV11
hats off for salty for knowing his Everest history. I thought my quiz would have had a longer life

as for What In The World Happened Here? XXXV111
the last time they added a June Leap second was 1997. is the veranda building on the International date line?

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#15875 - 06/30/11 07:03 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXV11 [Re: Harvey Lankford]
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Originally Posted By: Harvey Lankford

What In The World Happened Here? XXXVII
hats off for salty for knowing his Everest history. I thought my quiz would have had a longer life

My first thought was pommy troops in the desert theatres of WWII. Then I wandered over to (the "much higher" clue) astronauts training in the desert. Way far wrong. Hence Erika.

Originally Posted By: Harvey Lankford
as for What In The World Happened Here? XXXVIII
the last time they added a June Leap second was 1997. is the veranda building on the International Date Line?

Nope.
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#15878 - 06/30/11 08:32 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXVIII [Re: wagga]
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Originally Posted By: wagga
If you were sitting on this rather lovely verandah at the stroke of midnight on December 29th. of this year, exactly how many whole seconds +/- would elapse before the New Year rings in?

A biannual event which could have occurred today, but didn't, may affect the answer.

From midnight on December 29 until the New Year rings in should be 172,800 seconds unless they throw in a leap second this year. The last one was December 31, 2008, and we did not get one today, so we are about due.


Edited by AlanK (06/30/11 08:32 AM)

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#15879 - 06/30/11 08:39 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXV11 [Re: wagga]
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Originally Posted By: wagga

My first thought was pommy troops in the desert theatres of WWII. Then I wandered over to (the "much higher" clue) astronauts training in the desert. Way far wrong. Hence Erika.


Erika? No Greek male or female pole vaulters in the Himalayas
Just me at 19,200 ft. New record.
(Everest is in direct center, from the south)


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#15883 - 06/30/11 08:55 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXVIII [Re: AlanK]
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Originally Posted By: AlanK
From midnight on December 29 until the New Year rings in should be 172,800 seconds unless they throw in a leap second this year. The last one was December 31, 2008, and we did not get one today, so we are about due.

Bzzzzzzzzt! Wrong!

PS (and unrelated to the question), the Japanese earthquake did have an affect on day length, speeding up rotation by a few microseconds. But you probably already knew that.
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#15884 - 06/30/11 08:57 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXV11 [Re: Harvey Lankford]
wagga Offline


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Originally Posted By: Harvey Lankford
Erika? No Greek male or female pole vaulters in the Himalayas
Just me at 19,200 ft. New record.

Good one Skippy!
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#15885 - 06/30/11 09:40 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXVIII [Re: wagga]
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Originally Posted By: wagga
Originally Posted By: AlanK
From midnight on December 29 until the New Year rings in should be 172,800 seconds unless they throw in a leap second this year. The last one was December 31, 2008, and we did not get one today, so we are about due.

Bzzzzzzzzt! Wrong!

I suspected you'd say something like that. At least we agree that it is not worth haggling about a few microsecond adjustment due to some earthquake.

OK, so I will re-think things. I imagine you, or your friend Hyde, kidnapping me to some treasure island in the South Pacific. We could make a toast to Tusitala. Meanwhile, a bit to the west of us, it would be tomorrow already.

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#15888 - 06/30/11 09:59 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXVIII [Re: AlanK]
wagga Offline


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Awww, you got it. I was hoping for an answer involving 1.21 GigaWatts, though.

Maybe Salty will get this when he's home from the sea.
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#15889 - 06/30/11 10:14 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXVIII [Re: wagga]
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Originally Posted By: wagga
Awww, you got it. I was hoping for an answer involving 1.21 GigaWatts, though.

Wow! To get that kind of power, you'd need to steal some Pu from a bunch of Libyan nationalists.

Good clue, though. I guess I don't read the news enough. I totally missed the fact that the folks that run that place with the beautiful veranda plan to jump by a whole day at the end of this year! That accounts for 86,400 seconds of my overestimate.

The news is at least as strange as fiction.


Edited by AlanK (06/30/11 12:10 PM)

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#15891 - 06/30/11 11:41 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? XXXV11 [Re: wagga]
Harvey Lankford Offline


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Originally Posted By: wagga
Originally Posted By: Harvey Lankford
Erika? No Greek male or female pole vaulters in the Himalayas
Just me at 19,200 ft. New record.

Good one Skippy!


Actually that was me

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