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#19552 - 11/04/11 06:34 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LVIII (58) [Re: AlanK]
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I Have Two Felt Pens?
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#19553 - 11/04/11 07:32 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LVIII (58) [Re: wagga]
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Originally Posted By: wagga
Originally Posted By: Steve C
I thought maybe it looked like a space shuttle engine, but can't find any pictures to match.

And it's not an aircraft fuel tank - though that was the original plan. Sort of.

The whole thing is a throwback to the 1960s.

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#19554 - 11/04/11 08:01 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LVIII (58) [Re: AlanK]
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And 50 years on, China just invented it.
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#19555 - 11/04/11 08:45 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LVIII (58) [Re: wagga]
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Originally Posted By: wagga
And 50 years on, China just invented it.

There's a lot of that going around.

But they did invent gunpowder a while back.

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#19558 - 11/04/11 08:57 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LVIII (58) [Re: AlanK]
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Originally Posted By: AlanK
The whole thing is a throwback to the 1960s.

BWR ?

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#19559 - 11/04/11 09:12 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LVIII (58) [Re: Harvey Lankford]
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I think we had one of these on the old farm.

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#19560 - 11/04/11 09:15 AM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LVIII (58) [Re: Harvey Lankford]
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Originally Posted By: Harvey Lankford
Originally Posted By: AlanK
The whole thing is a throwback to the 1960s.

BWR ?

I agree on the "R" part, but nothing should be boiling.

Originally Posted By: Rod
I think we had one of these on the old farm.

Heckuva farm!


Edited by AlanK (11/04/11 09:15 AM)

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#19569 - 11/04/11 01:55 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LVIII (58) [Re: AlanK]
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So the R is reactor

I thought the saltydog/melt clue meant a meltdown near salty's Cape Cod location, therefore Pilgram Nuc.

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#19571 - 11/04/11 02:39 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LVIII (58) [Re: Harvey Lankford]
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Originally Posted By: Harvey Lankford
So the R is reactor

I thought the saltydog/melt clue meant a meltdown near salty's Cape Cod location, therefore Pilgram Nuc.

I did not think of that -- didn't mean to confuse (as opposed to be obscure). No meltdown.

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#19573 - 11/04/11 02:46 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LIV (54) [Re: AlanK]
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Interesting

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#19574 - 11/04/11 02:55 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LIV (54) [Re: SaraC_UK]
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Anything to do with Mag Lev ? (forward motion at speed though electro magnetism?

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#19575 - 11/04/11 03:02 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LIV (54) [Re: SaraC_UK]
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#19576 - 11/04/11 03:10 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LIV (54) [Re: SaraC_UK]
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Ok may be way off here but it looks similar to some NASA development rocket , satellite launch, engines, which the Chinese have recently been using

(see phot above)

A cryogenic rocket engine is a rocket engine that uses a cryogenic fuel

The YF-77 is currently China's most powerful cryogenic rocket engine using liquid hydrogen (LH2) fuel and liquid oxygen (LOX) oxidizer. Engine development began in the 2000s, with testing directed by the China National Space Administration (CNSA) commencing in 2005. The engine has been successfully tested by mid-2007.

YES????


American cryogenic engines

In staged combustion and gas generator, a small amount of fuel and propellant are burnt and used to the hot gases are used to turn a turbine, which in turn drives the pumps that pump oxidizer and fuel into the combustion chamber.

The difference between staged combustion and gas generator is that in the gas generator, after driving the turbine, the gases are vented out into the atmosphere. In a staged combustion the gases that leave the turbine (usually a fuel rich mixture, though the Russians use a more difficult oxygen rich mixture) and sent into the combustion chamber where they are burnt . That way the staged combustion generates a couple of percentage points more thrust and is more efficeint (coz the gases are used to propel and not wastefully vented out).


Edited by SaraC_UK (11/04/11 03:25 PM)

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#19578 - 11/04/11 03:25 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LIV (54) [Re: SaraC_UK]
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Good try! Even looks like it. Sorry!

There is definitely an aviation component in the story, though.
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#19581 - 11/04/11 03:54 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LIV (54) [Re: wagga]
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How about this

http://bartoncii.xanga.com/607971287/the-aircraft-nuclear-program-and-the-molten-salt-reactor/

The MSRE went critical on June 1, 1965 and operated for 4.5 years until it was shut down in December 1969. The MSRE was the first (and probably only) reactor to operate on all three fissile fuels: U-233, U-235, and Pu-239. During its operation, uranium was completely removed from the salt through fluorination by bubbling gaseous fluorine through the salt. The fluorine caused the uranium tetrafluoride to convert to uranium hexafluoride, which is gaseous, and could then be removed. In 4 days, 218 kg of uranium was separated from the intensely radioactive fission products and its activity was reduced by a billionfold. The reactor was then loaded with U-233 that had been made by early runs of thorium fuel at the Indian Point reactor in New York.

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#19582 - 11/04/11 03:55 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LIV (54) [Re: SaraC_UK]
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The Molten Salt Reactor experiment 1961

the picture is identical but from a different angle

Is there a prize ???


Edited by SaraC_UK (11/04/11 04:02 PM)

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#19583 - 11/04/11 04:04 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LVIII (58) [Re: AlanK]
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Originally Posted By: AlanK
I am glad the guy in the picture has his hard hat on.

Why?

PS Sara love your Yosemite pic


Edited by Harvey Lankford (11/04/11 04:05 PM)

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#19584 - 11/04/11 04:05 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LIV (54) [Re: SaraC_UK]
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Originally Posted By: SaraC_UK
The Molten Salt Reactor experiment 1961

Originally Posted By: AlanK
I mean, saltydog would melt over this one.

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#19585 - 11/04/11 04:05 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LIV (54) [Re: SaraC_UK]
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Guess it is not that missle silo in the back yard. It looks so familar and I know I have seen this picture before. Damn if I can recall where.Not mechanical enough to know what it is but it looks like a huge furnace with a large gas inlet and burner and a large engine and drive shaft.


Edited by Rod (11/04/11 04:06 PM)

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#19586 - 11/04/11 04:07 PM Re: What In The World Happened Here? LIV (54) [Re: SaraC_UK]
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SaraC has it. Prize is you get to post your own puzzle. Something Pommie?
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