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Change in day-of overnight permit system 8/8
#26791 08/10/12 04:18 PM
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I had been told to arrive at the Interagency center south of Lone Pine at 11 am to receive a number , then have lots drawn, then get a permit as available. This was not the case.

Luckily, we arrived 2 hrs early, were given number 17 while 15 was being serviced, and got the last 2 of 3 remaining day-of permits for an overnight climb of Whitney. The ranger said the rules were changed "last week, maybe".

Had a storm-delayed ascent to Trail Camp on 8/8, summitted on 8/9, descended to great burgers by Doug at the Store.
Thanks Doug, Harvey and Seth

( full trgip report later on Bishop to Onion, plus Whitney)

Re: Change in day-of overnight permit system 8/8
Harvey Lankford #26797 08/10/12 05:25 PM
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For people holding reservations for a Mt Whitney overnight hike, their deadline to show up and claim their reservation is 10 AM.

So after that, the no-shows' permits should also become available.

Harvey, you were there at 9 AM, while some parties had already picked up their permits and dropped a few people off their permits. So I think you got two of the three of those available.

I sure hope I can get all this information clarified pretty soon.

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Steve C #26804 08/10/12 07:00 PM
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I do, too Steve: good luck. Wish I could help. Its pretty sad that a ranger there to inform the public doesn't know when the rules changed. Not necessarily that ranger's fault either: I am sure they get the mushroom treatment, too. Very much like my experience there last year. Some rangers would make cancellations available immediately in the computer, others would put them in the lottery with the no-shows.


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Re: Change in day-of overnight permit system 8/8
saltydog #26808 08/10/12 09:00 PM
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just re-looked at my permit...exact time issued was 9:05 am.
we were lucky

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Harvey Lankford #26813 08/11/12 04:14 AM
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upon re-reading their rules, maybe it was not a change

rules

says
Walk in permits
are issued starting at 11 am one day before the trip entry date. If space is still available, permits can be issued on the day of the trip.

Reserved Permits
"You must pick up or confirm your reservation before the deadline or the reservation will be canceled. Deadline for overnight permits is 10 am on the entry date.

so our recent walk-in, day-of, overnight permit success at 9:05am on a midweek Wednesday might have been (A) a " virgin" permit still available from 11 am the day-before until ?? 11 am the day-of rather than ( B) an unclaimed (or reduced party) reserved permit which would not have become available until after 10:00 am the day-of. Ranger did not say which source our permit came from. Hard to imagine that in August their were any from group (A) but maybe so.

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Harvey Lankford #26819 08/11/12 10:30 AM
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There could have been some cancellations between 11 am the day before and 8 am the day of. They may have decided to add them to the pool if they were not already doing that. You were there before the no-show deadline, so I would not think that they would be including those spaces.


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