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#31328 - 05/11/13 06:20 AM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: Steve C]
wagga Offline


Registered: 10/07/09
Posts: 2203
Loc: Humbug Reach (Pop. 3)
Originally Posted By: Steve C
Once my bones recover, I'll be ready for the R-2-R on Thursday.

Committing battery on your bones? Bet that Hertz. Actually, following Spot, I could see that you took a lot of XC short circuits.
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#31329 - 05/11/13 06:23 AM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: saltydog]
wagga Offline


Registered: 10/07/09
Posts: 2203
Loc: Humbug Reach (Pop. 3)
Originally Posted By: saltydog
Watt a trip.

Have you driven a Chevy Volt? Joule like it, currently the best automotive technology out there. I think you can rent one at Hertz.
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#31336 - 05/11/13 02:49 PM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: wagga]
saltydog Offline


Registered: 02/03/11
Posts: 1535
Loc: Valley Ford CA!!!!
Originally Posted By: wagga
Originally Posted By: saltydog
Watt a trip.

Have you driven a Chevy Volt? Joule like it, currently the best automotive technology out there. I think you can rent one at Hertz.


I amp retty sure Tesla has it beat.
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#31337 - 05/11/13 04:08 PM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: saltydog]
Steve C Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 7191
Loc: Fresno, CA
> I amp retty sure Tesla has it beat.

I get a big charge out of driving the Volt. ...and it beats Tesla any time you need to go over 300 miles.

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#31339 - 05/12/13 05:08 AM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: Steve C]
saltydog Offline


Registered: 02/03/11
Posts: 1535
Loc: Valley Ford CA!!!!
How about EV miles to EV miles? Siemens to me a better comparison.
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#31352 - 05/13/13 12:41 AM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: saltydog]
Steve C Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 7191
Loc: Fresno, CA
I amp not able to invent terms like wagga and salty; it hertz my feeble brain.

Plainly speaking, a Tesla will out run a Volt any time on battery only -- Tesla doesn't have the 200 lb ICE in its "frunk" as excess baggage to haul around.

But nobody driving a Volt suffers from Range Anxiety. Running a battery dead will "flatbed" a Tesla. Not a Volt, it just turns into a hybrid. It's the only dual-mode vehicle on the road.

Now back to regular programming... I'm 48 hours away from the start of the Rim-to-Rim adventure. Taking the older conventional car for that trip.

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#31376 - 05/13/13 07:28 PM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: Steve C]
Whitney Fan Offline


Registered: 12/02/09
Posts: 213
Loc: Las Vegas
Steve, have a great time on your r to r -- you'll love it! Already looking forward to your tr . . .

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#31379 - 05/14/13 06:19 PM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: Whitney Fan]
Julius S. Offline


Registered: 09/26/11
Posts: 45
Loc: Mission Viejo CA.
We're ready to cross the big hole.

Wife and daughter in great shape,and spirit. I'm recovering from a sailing incident. Twisted my left knee pretty good, but feeling better day bay day.
Tomorrows drive will help as I can stay off my feet for 8-9 hours.

Looking forward to meet Steve in Barstow for the car exchange. It saves us both money and time, not having to deal with the shuttle.

I'm sad I can't take my DSLR to one of the premier photography places in the world, but I have to cut weight as much as possible.Maybe next time...
We'll post a TR and pictures when we get back.

Julius


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#31380 - 05/14/13 07:26 PM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: Julius S.]
wagga Offline


Registered: 10/07/09
Posts: 2203
Loc: Humbug Reach (Pop. 3)
Good luck to all of you. Watch out for Internet psychos, though.
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#31381 - 05/14/13 10:02 PM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: wagga]
Steve C Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 7191
Loc: Fresno, CA
I'm also loaded, ready to roll. Looking forward to this!

If anyone wants to come along in virtual space, here are two links:

Spot shared page     Spotwalla trip map

I won't start sending spot signals until I start the hike on Thursday.

Best way to see the terrain on the Spot map is to use the "Terrain" or "Hybrid" options (upper right corner of the map page)

Internet Wackos? Where?!!! grin

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#31393 - 05/16/13 08:20 PM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: Steve C]
wagga Offline


Registered: 10/07/09
Posts: 2203
Loc: Humbug Reach (Pop. 3)
Internet Wackos? Where?!!!

Remember meeting up with SaltyDog?

SteveC appears to have completed the journey in around 15 hours.
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#31394 - 05/17/13 05:58 AM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: Julius S.]
smithb Offline


Registered: 10/04/10
Posts: 80
Loc: ventura county, ca
steve,

congratulations on conquering the canyon.

i'm certain you have many stories to tell.

the temp at phantom ranch when you went through @ 0840 was 75. it was in the 90s there from 1050 to 1925 - hitting 99 @ 1530.

whew.

congrats again on defeating one of america's toughest dayhikes!

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#31396 - 05/17/13 04:23 PM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: Steve C]
John Sims Offline


Registered: 04/20/12
Posts: 523
Loc: Sunnyvale, California
Originally Posted By: Steve C
I'm also loaded, ready to roll. Looking forward to this!

I won't start sending spot signals until I start the hike on Thursday.

Best way to see the terrain on the Spot map is to use the "Terrain" or "Hybrid" options (upper right corner of the map page)

Most Excellent. 14 hrs & 2 minutes, inculding a side trip. Tracking spots very consitently placed. You're a machine.
Looking for the TR now.

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#31401 - 05/17/13 06:28 PM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: John Sims]
Steve C Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 7191
Loc: Fresno, CA
Made it home at 4 PM Friday. Drove 4 hours last night, and 8 today. Two days driving and one day hiking... No wonder I don't do that very often. In fact, it was 39 years ago that I last hiked to the Colorado and back!

Some of the memorable part is all the various people I met on the trail. The R-2-R is a destination for trail (ultra)runners and marathoners. A group of 5 or 6 runners passed me in the morning, and of course I never saw them again.

While having my first ever morning beer at the Phantom Ranch Canteen, two women in their upper 20s, and a mom (mother-daughter marathon team) showed up. Mom was ready to head back to south rim, but the two gals were heading to the N Rim to spend the night, ....and do a return R-2-R today! Of course I never saw them again either.

By the way, heading up the north side, I puzzled at my headache. Then it dawned on me: a morning beer doesn't sit well with hiking. Ibuprofen and several hours later, I was fine.

As the third hike in two weeks, I again met several Germans. They travel the world to hike!

I met Julius and his family in the perfect spot to exchange keys:  Ribbon Falls.  I spent a longer time on the trail than the others for several reasons:  taking pictures, drinking a beer, talking with hikers, chilling at Ribbon Falls.  But it all added to the enjoyment.

I was one of the first hikers to start in the morning, but I am sure I was the last to finish. But then all the others were repeaters, so were doing it just to get it done. This was my first and probably only time.

Another thought: It is remarkable how many women are on the trail. Groups of only women, mixed groups. Impressed that several were obviously the group's leader, in charge of seeing that all was well with their group. Good to see.

And one more: Met quite a few backpackers coming down from the N. Rim. So many carrying huge packs! With such warm dry weather, seems like going tentless, and with maybe a one-pound bag would sure make their climb out easier. The sites at Cottonwood campground were without shade. Whew, not pretty!

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#31403 - 05/18/13 07:03 AM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: Steve C]
wagga Offline


Registered: 10/07/09
Posts: 2203
Loc: Humbug Reach (Pop. 3)
Beer! Breakfast Of Champions!

Pictures or it didn't happen.
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#31404 - 05/18/13 03:01 PM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: wagga]
Whitney Fan Offline


Registered: 12/02/09
Posts: 213
Loc: Las Vegas
Pictures, pictures, pictures! More words, more words, more words!

Congratulations, Steve -- sorry again we couldn't hook up here in fabulous Las Vegas. I appreciate your understanding, again. I'm in a pretty frenetic period right now ensuring a very bad cold is out of my system while I concurrently attend to many details in preparation for an 18 day Alaska jaunt this next week.

I share your reflection regarding how neat it is with respect to all the cool people you meet on this (or any other) hike.

Now -- besides all the nitty gritty details of your hike -- did it stack up as far as your expectations? Would you agree it's an iconic hike? How did that climb up the North Kaibab Trail go -- with ease or did you find that it did have some taxing aspects to it? Did you have any chance to look out over the canyon by the Grand Canyon Lodge at the rim, per se? (Or find you had to high tail it to sleep in St. George pretty quickly?) What about that beer? Was it -- my choice -- an IPA?!

Anxious to hear more about it all!

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#31407 - 05/18/13 10:36 PM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: Whitney Fan]
Steve C Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 7191
Loc: Fresno, CA
You guys want it all so soon! I am uploading pics tonight. This afternoon, I was in the local hardware store buying a new latch for a shower door, when Julius called. They had made it out to the South Rim in good shape. Lucky people get to spend a night there.

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#31408 - 05/19/13 03:05 AM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: Steve C]
Bulldog34 Offline


Registered: 11/12/09
Posts: 1254
Loc: Atlanta
Way to go Steve - you definitely motored through it. Looking forward to the pics. I've hiked in the park a few times but R2R and Havasupai are still on my bucket list.

I read an article a few years ago about a GCNP ranger who lived on one rim but worked on the other. He regularly speed-hiked to work and back across the canyon several times a week. As I recall, the NPS made some concessions to his schedule so he didn't have to do it daily, but the guy seemed to really enjoy it. Imagine.

Congrats again!

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#31414 - 05/19/13 08:03 PM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: Bulldog34]
Julius S. Offline


Registered: 09/26/11
Posts: 45
Loc: Mission Viejo CA.
Hey guys,
we made it back home Sunday 4PM.
It was one of our best hikes, no issues whatsoever, even the weather cooperated, low 90 with cloud cover the last 2 days.
The little one did an amazing job! Before the trip I told her that she has 7 complaints / whines that she can use on the hike.
She decided to bank them all for a later date to be determined, she said.
Downloading pictures and video in the next few days.
TR coming soon.
Thanks to Steve and JAGCHiker for working together to leave the car close to the trail head.
Julius

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#31415 - 05/20/13 01:50 AM Re: Grand Canyon, Rim to Rim, Car swap [Re: Julius S.]
Steve C Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 7191
Loc: Fresno, CA
I have uploaded about 75 of the best pictures from my hike, along with captions. I still plan on writing a report, but you can view the pics now if you like:

Grand Canyon Rim-to-Rim 5-16-2013

Two pictures:

Car Swap



Key Swap:


Edit: Julius has posted a trip report here -- Grand Canyon Rim to Rim

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