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#33627 - 10/04/13 08:02 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: MooseTracks]
+ @ti2d Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 832
Loc: Oh Cursed, USA
Originally Posted By: MooseTracks
DUG n me, cruisin' the halls of hell...

I'll bring cookies.


I will bring organic chili...oh, and gotta have the organic brown rice to go with it...say what?....yup, that's right!...the boys round here, drinkin that ice cold beer...Talkin bout girls, talkin bout trucks, runnin those red dirt roads out kickin up dust... whistle
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#33628 - 10/04/13 08:12 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: TJM]
HisBobness Offline


Registered: 08/18/13
Posts: 13
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: TJM
What's with the attitude? Whitney may not be the hardest climb in the Sierra, but why would you go out of your way to crap on a guy who is showing some enthusiasm for making a climb that he has probably been planning for months?

He never said he was going to get to the summit even in a lightning storm, he just said he wasn't going to let beaurocracy stand in the way if attempting it, especially considering the red tape one has to go through in order to even be able to attempt the main trail.

Congratulations if you've done harder mountains. But why pooh-pooh someone else for whom this might be the biggest trip of their lives?

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#33629 - 10/04/13 08:36 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: + @ti2d]
Akichow Offline


Registered: 04/07/10
Posts: 659
Loc: SF Bay Area
Error 404 URL not found. Because of the federal government shutdown, Hell is not currently accepting new residents or visitors. For more information, go to www.doi.gov.

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#33630 - 10/04/13 08:39 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: + @ti2d]
Akichow Offline


Registered: 04/07/10
Posts: 659
Loc: SF Bay Area
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#33631 - 10/04/13 08:42 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: + @ti2d]
MooseTracks Offline


Registered: 11/02/09
Posts: 582
Loc: Bishop, CA, United States
Originally Posted By: + @ti2d
Originally Posted By: MooseTracks
DUG n me, cruisin' the halls of hell...

I'll bring cookies.


I will bring organic chili...oh, and gotta have the organic brown rice to go with it...say what?....yup, that's right!...the boys round here, drinkin that ice cold beer...Talkin bout girls, talkin bout trucks, runnin those red dirt roads out kickin up dust... whistle


O... M... G... You're bringin' Blake? YES PLEASE!!!

chew terbacca chew terbacca chew terbacca SPIT

Oh, wait, that's the gross part of the song...

And actually, I've got a permanent resident card for Hell. Comes for free when cutting switchers... grin

(Beeeee!! Devils horn emoticon!!!)


Edited by Bee (10/04/13 09:51 AM)
Edit Reason: Devil is in the details!
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#33632 - 10/04/13 08:53 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: MooseTracks]
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Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 370
Loc: Wildomar
Now that hell is suddenly so popular, I don't wanna go. I need to find something off the beaten path, or "outside of the zone" as they say. I'll take a cookie and a cup of chili before I go though................................DUG




Originally Posted By: MooseTracks
Originally Posted By: + @ti2d
Originally Posted By: MooseTracks
DUG n me, cruisin' the halls of hell...

I'll bring cookies.


I will bring organic chili...oh, and gotta have the organic brown rice to go with it...say what?....yup, that's right!...the boys round here, drinkin that ice cold beer...Talkin bout girls, talkin bout trucks, runnin those red dirt roads out kickin up dust... whistle


O... M... G... You're bringin' Blake? YES PLEASE!!!

chew terbacca chew terbacca chew terbacca SPIT

Oh, wait, that's the gross part of the song...

And actually, I've got a permanent resident card for Hell. Comes for free when cutting switchers... grin

(Beeeee!! Devils horn emoticon!!!)

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#33635 - 10/04/13 10:27 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: Pingbong]
Steve C Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 7742
Loc: Fresno, CA
Originally Posted By: Pingbong, Oct 3 at 5 PM
Hey All,

Just got off the phone with the Store and they said they are being told they have to close because they're on federal land AND that they road IS being closed... Was supposed to be heading up tmw for a Sunday summit, but I think closing the road is the nail in the coffin.


I just called Inyo County Roads department, today (Oct 4) at 10 AM. Here's what I learned:

1. Horseshoe Meadows road is closed at the gate (about 10 miles from HM).

2. Whitney Portal road is in flux: It sounds like there is some arm-wrestling over who can close it. Inyo tells me it is currently open.

4. Quite a few roads in Death Valley National Park are closed.

3. Other roads are open.

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#33636 - 10/04/13 12:52 PM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: Steve C]
+ @ti2d Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 832
Loc: Oh Cursed, USA
That's a real shame that Doug has to close the store...

I wonder how the Whitney Portal Cabin residents feel about the road closure...they have houses to winterize now if they haven't done so already...I believe some people get that done this month in preparation for winter

and if the road is going to be closed now...there are going to be some P*SSED OFF people. (*: insert vowel of choice.)

They will be singing (in bold)... MooseTracks wanted Blake "The Voice"...she got it!

Tearin' down a dirt road , Rebel flag flyin', coon dog in the back
Truck bed loaded down with beer and a cold one in my lap
Earnhart sticker behind my head and my woman by my side
Tail-pipe's poppin', the radio's rockin', "Country Boy Can Survive"
If you got a problem with that, ha ha! You can kiss my country *ss.

Well, I love turkey calls, overalls, Wrangler jeans, smoke nothin' but Marlboro reds
Tattoos up & down my arms, and deer heads over my bed.
My Granddaddy fought in World War Two, my Daddy went to Vietnam.
And I ain't scared to grab my gun, and fight for my homeland.
If you don't love the American flag...you can kiss my country *ss.

If you're a down home, backwoods redneck...
Hey come on, stand up and raise your glass...
But if you ain't down with my outlaw crowd...
You can kiss my country *ss.

Well, there's a whole lotta high-class people out there that's lookin' down on me...
Cause the country club where I belong is the Honky Tonk till three in the mornin'.
Don't wear no fancy clothes, no ties or three piece suits....
You can find me in my camouflage cap, my t-shirt and cowboy boots...
If that don't fit your social class...you can kiss my country *ss.

Well I'm a front-porch sittin', guitar pickin', moonshine sippin',
Backer juice spittin' country boy from the woods...
And I love fried chicken and bluegill fishin',
And outlaw women, an' I wouldn't change if I could.

I ain't tryin' to start no fight, but I'll finish one every time
So you just mind your own damn business...stay the hell outta mine.
If you got a problem with that...you can kiss my country *ss.


I said if you got a problem with any of that
You can kiss my natural born, Redneck to the bone, ever-lovin'

Country *ss.





We're goin' fishin'...

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#33637 - 10/04/13 01:14 PM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: + @ti2d]
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Registered: 01/24/10
Posts: 6
Loc: Socal
Originally Posted By: + @ti2d
I wonder how the Whitney Portal Cabin residents feel about the road closure...they have houses to winterize now if they haven't done so already...I believe some people get that done this month in preparation for winter

and if the road is going to be closed now...there are going to be some P*SSED OFF people. (*: insert vowel of choice.)


Usually they would still let residents in during a shutdown (they are in Yosemite). But YMMV.

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#33641 - 10/04/13 04:25 PM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: + @ti2d]
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Registered: 11/02/09
Posts: 582
Loc: Bishop, CA, United States
Originally Posted By: + @ti2d

They will be singing (in bold)... MooseTracks wanted Blake "The Voice"...she got it!



nom nom nom nom nom nom nom...
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#33643 - 10/04/13 07:49 PM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: MooseTracks]
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Posts: 582
Loc: Bishop, CA, United States
Onion Valley Road is open all the way up.
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#33644 - 10/04/13 08:53 PM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: MooseTracks]
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Registered: 09/05/11
Posts: 1145
Loc: NorCal
Originally Posted By: MooseTracks
Originally Posted By: SierraNevada


About 2.6 billion people, or 40 percent of world's population -- mostly in the Whitney Zone and Yosemite Valley -- lack access to safe sanitation and are forced to defecate in bags that they have to carry themselves, according to Gates.

(Editing by Moosetracks)

There, fixed it for ya!! wink

I'm bothered by thinking about what "usable resources" might be... ew ew ew ew ew...

Nice fix. I like it. smile

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#33649 - 10/05/13 08:52 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: SierraNevada]
Brent N Offline


Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 278
Loc: Orange County, CA
The mountains aren't the only thing...

Now, the oceans.

Miami Herald Article

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#33677 - 10/08/13 02:47 PM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: JimC]
cloud9 Offline


Registered: 10/01/13
Posts: 5
Loc: California
I think you guys got me all wrong.

This entire thread was about the govt shutdown and how we were going to get our already booked permits.

I just didn't feel the need to reiterate that part in my post. I felt that if I said I'm going regardless, you guys would understand that I would not let bureaucracy come into my months of planning.

But whatever. It is the internet and people will choose to be who they are and interpret someone else's post the way they want.

I won't argue with anyone...and everyone has their own opinion....

but some pictures from the past 2 weeks...:)

Clouds Rest from the Valley floor...


From the 96 Switchbacks...



This is a great forum with a lot of info...helped me a lot before I chose to register...

Thanks....
Cloud9

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#33698 - 10/09/13 11:11 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: cloud9]
Brent N Offline


Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 278
Loc: Orange County, CA
cloud9, good for you. Gorgeous pictures and I'm so glad that the bureaucracy did not influence your trip. It looks like you had some amazing visibility from Whitney.

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#33703 - 10/09/13 03:16 PM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: Harvey Lankford]
tdtz Offline


Registered: 08/26/10
Posts: 511
Loc: CA
When we give the government the power to provide, we give the government the power to take away.

It is amazing to me that a shutdown means restricting access to public lands instead of simply sending government workers home to drink beers until this is resolved and they get their back pay.

So the rescue crew may not be readily available. There are plenty of other trails that don't have all of the luxuries of the MWT. If you hike, do so at your own risk.

I am picturing John Muir 130 years ago or so going up to Mount Whitney only to be stopped because a ranger says that the federal government is shut down and access to federal land is no prohibited.

Absurd,I know....that's the point.

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#33704 - 10/09/13 05:05 PM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: tdtz]
Harvey Lankford Offline


Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 1023
Loc: Richmond, Virginia
Originally Posted By: tdtz
I am picturing John Muir 130 years ago or so going up to Mount Whitney only to be stopped because a ranger says that the federal government is shut down and access to federal land is no prohibited.

Ironically, Muir's base for that first climb up the MR was the town of .... Independence

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#33705 - 10/09/13 05:31 PM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: cloud9]
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Registered: 10/18/10
Posts: 453
Loc: San Diego
cloud9, your original post and intent was not lost on me, and I'm sure a lot of other folks. Just because some people took what you said out of context doesn't mean others didn't understand. Congrats and a fun and safe trip!!! There is a lot of useful information here for first timers.

Originally Posted By: cloud9
I think you guys got me all wrong.

This entire thread was about the govt shutdown and how we were going to get our already booked permits.

I just didn't feel the need to reiterate that part in my post. I felt that if I said I'm going regardless, you guys would understand that I would not let bureaucracy come into my months of planning.

But whatever. It is the internet and people will choose to be who they are and interpret someone else's post the way they want.

I won't argue with anyone...and everyone has their own opinion....

but some pictures from the past 2 weeks...:)

Clouds Rest from the Valley floor...


From the 96 Switchbacks...



This is a great forum with a lot of info...helped me a lot before I chose to register...

Thanks....
Cloud9

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#33706 - 10/09/13 05:36 PM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: MooseTracks]
Marty Offline


Registered: 01/25/10
Posts: 90
Loc: CT
An email from rec.gov said that my Whitney permit (which I obviously could not get from the closed Interagency Center) has been cancelled due to "NO SHOW".



Edited by Marty (10/09/13 05:37 PM)

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#33722 - 10/10/13 01:40 PM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: Marty]
ndputnam Offline


Registered: 10/10/13
Posts: 3
Loc: Hermosa Beach, CA
I have a trip planned up to Shepard's Pass to hike Mount Williamson and Tyndall next week. I have 3 friends flying in from Boston with non-refundable tickets so we are still planning on doing the hike. I was curious to see if there were any gates on the roads into the trail head that could possibly be shut making the trip that much longer?

Thanks in advance.

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