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#33534 - 10/01/13 12:25 AM Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ?
JimC Offline


Registered: 02/26/10
Posts: 57
Loc: SoCal
So,
If government is "shutdown" can we still pick up our permits?

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#33535 - 10/01/13 04:08 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: JimC]
saltydog Offline


Registered: 02/03/11
Posts: 1566
Loc: Valley Ford CA!!!!
Better call Inyo ASAP.
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#33537 - 10/01/13 08:02 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: JimC]
wbtravis Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 1253
Loc: Corner of Jack Benny and Roche...
The offices are shuttered.

Who will be there to enforce the anything? You can run yellow barrier tape across the various trailheads and post temporary signage but that comes down in about 5 seconds when no one is around.

My guess is volunteers will still show up and help, unless ordered by the forest service to stand down.

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#33538 - 10/01/13 08:48 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: wbtravis]
Steve C Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 7874
Loc: Fresno, CA
No answer on the wilderness permit telephone number.

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#33539 - 10/01/13 08:53 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: JimC]
tr0mbley Offline


Registered: 09/24/12
Posts: 17
Loc: Atlanta
Call me crazy (or maybe even logical) but if the government is shut down, then why would we need a permit to hike? They created the permit system, so if they're not there to enforce it, then it's open season for hikers!

It's a damn mountain. How can you close it? I can't believe the government is even involved in my outdoor activities in the first place. I wish I was in the Sierras so I could hike Whitney without a permit today.

This is a political stunt. It's really shameful.

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#33540 - 10/01/13 08:55 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: JimC]
Dan Georgiades Offline


Registered: 04/08/13
Posts: 4
Loc: Chino, CA
I've gone through all the red tape, had my permit since April, and took the time off of work for my trip planned for tomorrow through Friday... I'm climbing that mountain.

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#33541 - 10/01/13 09:28 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: Dan Georgiades]
Marc74 Offline


Registered: 10/13/12
Posts: 6
Loc: CA
SR 120
[IN THE CENTRAL CALIFORNIA AREA & SIERRA NEVADA]
IS CLOSED FROM CRANE FLAT TO 5 MI WEST OF THE JCT OF US 395 /TIOGA PASS/
(TUOLUMNE, MONO CO) - DUE TO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN - MOTORISTS ARE
ADVISED TO USE AN ALTERNATE ROUTE

I had no idea they'd close a public road...

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#33543 - 10/01/13 09:46 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: Marc74]
Steve C Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 7874
Loc: Fresno, CA
> SR 120 closed

Well, it goes through Yosemite National Park, where the Yosemite rangers provide all and the only public safety support. So when they aren't working, I guess the only thing to do is close the road.

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#33544 - 10/01/13 09:48 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: Marc74]
Snacking Bear Offline


Registered: 08/09/11
Posts: 502
Loc: Nashville, TN
Sr 120 in that area is on federally owned and protected lands. It IS s toll road.
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#33545 - 10/01/13 09:54 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: Snacking Bear]
Marc74 Offline


Registered: 10/13/12
Posts: 6
Loc: CA
Hopefully, the shutdown will not affect Whitney Portal road/area.

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#33546 - 10/01/13 09:56 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: Marc74]
Harvey Lankford Offline


Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 1024
Loc: Richmond, Virginia
If a hiker hikes in the forest and there is no one there to see him, is he there?

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#33547 - 10/01/13 10:18 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: Harvey Lankford]
Brent N Offline


Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 278
Loc: Orange County, CA
Forget about the permits. Where will I get my wag bags?

Brent N

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#33550 - 10/01/13 11:19 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: Brent N]
Lzpup Offline


Registered: 03/08/12
Posts: 8
Loc: California
Zip locks and Cat litter wink

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#33551 - 10/01/13 11:38 AM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: Brent N]
JimC Offline


Registered: 02/26/10
Posts: 57
Loc: SoCal
There are plenty of bags on the trail smile . Just remember to bring it down when you are done using it.

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#33552 - 10/01/13 12:31 PM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: JimC]
Steve C Offline


Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 7874
Loc: Fresno, CA
Found this on Facebook:

Mt. Whitney Portal Campground
Originally Posted By: Mt. Whitney Portal Campground
Whitney Portal Road, Lone Pine, California 93545
(760) 937-6070


September 29 via mobile
Hello Everyone just to let all of you know that the Federal Government Shut - down will not impact our operations we will conduct business as usual. We will leave the camping,fishing & hiking up to you lol just remember it is cool at Night up at Whitney so bring your cold weather gear.

Richard R:
The reservation web site is down as well. How can we find out if there are any camp sites available?
Campground:
Mt. Whitney Portal Campground OPEN,OPEN,OPEN are we all Campgrounds open up here in the INYO'S so keep coming


I believe the campground hosts are unpaid volunteers, so they are still operating.

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#33554 - 10/01/13 12:51 PM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: wbtravis]
SoCal Jim Offline


Registered: 06/09/10
Posts: 29
Loc: Southern California
If I had plans for a trip in National Forest land, I'd still be going. If you did run into a ranger, what's he gonna do: slap on the handcuffs? I'd be polite, but not necessarily turn around and head back to the trailhead. And if I encountered a volunteer, I'd say, "I appreciate what you're doing, but the FOREST isn't closed; the USFS is." That's a bureaucratic issue resulting from a few jackasses in Washington saying, "If we don't get our way, then everybody will suffer the consequences." That's not governing in a responsible manner; it's pouting and being obstinate.

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#33555 - 10/01/13 12:55 PM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: SoCal Jim]
SoCal Jim Offline


Registered: 06/09/10
Posts: 29
Loc: Southern California
And, BTW, I'm sure most people know, but SR 120/Tioga Road is a STATE highway, not federal. I get why it's closed, but just one more aggravating piece of this mess.

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#33559 - 10/01/13 01:43 PM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: SoCal Jim]
RichardK Offline


Registered: 11/06/09
Posts: 104
Loc: East Coast Florida
Originally Posted By: SoCal Jim
And, BTW, I'm sure most people know, but SR 120/Tioga Road is a STATE highway, not federal. I get why it's closed, but just one more aggravating piece of this mess.


This news story is on the KCET website here http://www.kcet.org/living/travel/socal_wanderer/briefs/we-apologize-for-the-potential.html.

Hwy 120 is open.

Only travelers between the two sides of the park can gain access, a sigh of relief for those heading to or from the Eastern Sierra (even though snow usually closes Tioga Road in October). "Visitors passing through the Park to reach another destination (i.e. Mammoth Lakes, Tahoe, etc.) will be able to do so on a designated 'thruway' such as Hwy. 120 or 41," read a letter from Terry Selk of the Yosemite/Mariposa County Tourism Bureau. "Stopping or recreating will be prohibited."

Caltrans changed their website as well:

SR 120
[IN THE CENTRAL CALIFORNIA AREA & SIERRA NEVADA]
1-WAY CONTROLLED TRAFFIC AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS FROM THE SOUTH JCT OF US 395
TO 5.6 MI EAST OF THE SOUTH JCT OF US 395 (MONO CO) FROM 0700 HRS TO 1700 HRS
MONDAY THRU WEDNESDAY THRU 10/2/13 - DUE TO CONSTRUCTION - MOTORISTS ARE
SUBJECT TO DELAYS OF UP TO 20 MINUTES

IS REOPENED FROM CRANE FLAT TO 5 MI WEST OF THE JCT OF US 395 /TIOGA PASS/
(TUOLUMNE, MONO CO) AT 0930 HRS ON 10/1/13

[YOSEMITE NAT'L PARK]
FOR YOSEMITE NAT'L PARK ROAD INFORMATION CALL 209-372-0200


Edited by RichardK (10/01/13 01:58 PM)

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#33560 - 10/01/13 02:34 PM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: RichardK]
DAN B. Offline


Registered: 10/01/13
Posts: 1
Loc: SD, California
Is there the possibility that the Portal Road will be closed the weekend? Hiking without a permit is one thing but the additional mileage up the road is a concern.
Per a conversation with the Portal Store employee, the road is currently open but does the Fed have the capability to deny access to the Portal parking lot?

Talk about the last thing I thought I would have to plan for in doing this hike

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#33561 - 10/01/13 03:10 PM Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ? [Re: DAN B.]
Brent N Offline


Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 278
Loc: Orange County, CA
Ironically, today marks Yosemite's 123rd birthday as a national park. I guess it gets to take the day off.

Brent N

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