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#5371 - 06/21/10 11:54 AM Re: Jessica [Re: wagga]
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The article by the sailor was excellent.
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#5386 - 06/22/10 09:18 AM Re: Jessica [Re: CaT]
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And here is a transcript from TALK OF THE NATION on NPR.

No mention of Jessica, though.
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#5399 - 06/22/10 03:02 PM Re: Jessica [Re: wagga]
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Jessica posted today that she's been busy writing her book & it's going to the printers next week.

School?. Do you think she's going to school?.
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#5413 - 06/23/10 08:09 AM Re: Jessica [Re: wagga]
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Originally Posted By: wagga
School?. Do you think she's going to school?.

Summer vacation... cool
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#5419 - 06/23/10 09:19 AM Re: Jessica [Re: CaT]
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Gotcha! Just lay out some bait & wait for a pounce...
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#5437 - 06/24/10 07:37 AM Re: Jessica [Re: wagga]
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Originally Posted By: wagga, approx. May 16
* * * Then Jess came home. Kept the Prime Minister of Australia [Rudd] waiting for hours.

Well, it seems like Jessica completed her circumnavigation none too soon.

CaT
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#5451 - 06/24/10 02:23 PM Re: Jessica [Re: CaT]
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Yup, she has to deal with the style police. At least it's an equal-pay position.
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#5455 - 06/24/10 05:41 PM Re: Jessica [Re: wagga]
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Here are some new details about Abby's rescue.

Abby Sunderland rescue made possible by EPIRB.

Beacon credited with quick rescue of teen sailor Abby Sunderland.

I wondered how Abby was able to communicate with the Qantas airliner:

"Following the EPIRB and PLB beacon activations, Abby was able to communicate with the Qantas airliner utilizing the handheld VHF-FM radio from the emergency ditch bag."

Which means that even if Wild Eyes had sunk, she would have been able to communicate from the life raft. Remember, all of her other comm devices relied on mast-mounted antennas - no mast no mas.
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#5474 - 06/25/10 07:07 AM Re: Jessica [Re: wagga]
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#5478 - 06/25/10 09:17 AM Re: Jessica [Re: wagga]
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Abby to arrive at Reunion Island tonight, at 9 pm WZ time.
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#5512 - 06/27/10 06:06 PM Re: Jessica [Re: wagga]
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#5590 - 06/29/10 06:36 AM Re: Jessica [Re: wagga]
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#5607 - 06/29/10 06:02 PM Re: Jessica [Re: wagga]
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Here is the LA Times take on the press conference today.

Another article describing the outfitting of Wild Eyes.

"Abby's sailboat, "Wild Eyes," which was floating in mid-ocean more than 700 miles from the nearest land as Abby's plane landed in California, continued to drift east with the current and wind, making about 24 nautical miles per day toward the coast of Australia, more than 2,000 miles away."
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#5633 - 06/30/10 10:24 AM Re: Jessica [Re: wagga]
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My response to the second article:

"Jane, you lay out a clear enumeration of the boats features, but you end with a flat statement of cause, without any reason to believe you know what you are talking about. Wild Eyes was, indeed, well outfitted and designed. The only thing missing was an EXPERIENCED and capable skipper. Abby was exhausted by the time of the dismasting, and was making a series of mistakes that an experienced sailor would not make (going to bed with sail aloft in a blow, "hoping" that the wind would go down--it went up, resulting in a knock-down). She didn't have the experience, knowledge, or most importantly, judgement, to deal with the situation. It was clearly thought that the redundant advanced communication would allow her to talk to people with the skills and knowledge to tell her what to do. As Abby has learned, many many people have attempted to substitute technology with skill in attacking nature. Some have been lucky, but most often, it fails, often tragically."

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#5637 - 06/30/10 12:27 PM Re: Jessica [Re: Ken]
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Originally Posted By: Ken
My response to the second article:

"Jane, you lay out a clear enumeration of the boats features, but you end with a flat statement of cause, without any reason to believe you know what you are talking about. Wild Eyes was, indeed, well outfitted and designed. The only thing missing was an EXPERIENCED and capable skipper. Abby was exhausted by the time of the dismasting, and was making a series of mistakes that an experienced sailor would not make (going to bed with sail aloft in a blow, "hoping" that the wind would go down--it went up, resulting in a knock-down). She didn't have the experience, knowledge, or most importantly, judgement, to deal with the situation. It was clearly thought that the redundant advanced communication would allow her to talk to people with the skills and knowledge to tell her what to do. As Abby has learned, many many people have attempted to substitute technology with skill in attacking nature. Some have been lucky, but most often, it fails, often tragically."


Harsh, but true.
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#5639 - 06/30/10 12:40 PM Re: Jessica [Re: JWolf24601]
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A classic stack failure. As I recall, Jessica got beat up after COGH and veered Northward into calmer seas for a breather, to get some sleep, eat, etc. Was that her or her "crew" making that decision?
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#5649 - 06/30/10 05:02 PM Re: Jessica [Re: wagga]
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Loc: CO
I suspect Abby's family was so motivated to get back the youngest record & also maybe for some $$ that they pushed too
hard for success.

Jessica on the other hand was more experienced, the entire voyage was planned better and executed alot better than team
Abby. She is lucky to be alive and had she died the family doesn't know how criticism now would compare to that situation.

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#5667 - 07/01/10 02:19 AM Re: Jessica [Re: CMC2]
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Well, Jessica's earned her driver's licence. And the spelling is correct.

Off to the excitement of the PCT!
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#5670 - 07/01/10 08:28 AM Re: Jessica [Re: wagga]
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Registered: 09/22/09
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Loc: Glendale, CA
Is this thread really ending?

Before it fades out, I wanted to say that I really appreciate Ken's comments.

It seems like a whole lot of people have very strong opinions on this business. (I am referring mostly to people outside of this message board.) I claim no knowledge of sailing and have refrained from expressing strong opinions, but what Ken has said rings true for me. If nothing else, he makes sensible comments that seem to be entirely lacking in the media coverage.

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#5683 - 07/02/10 10:58 AM Re: Jessica [Re: AlanK]
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Thanks, Alan!

You know, I'm not blind to the concept of adventure and pushing the envelope. In fact, quite supportive. Even in my sailing circles, there is great disparity in opinion on this subject, quite passionately held. I guess the line that gets crossed for me, is rooted in my experiences with families that have lost a child. There is nothing that compensates, it is a loss that never goes away. However, when what is involved is something avoidable, the guilt is unbelievable, at least among most people. I just can't fathom going into that water voluntarily.

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