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Gambling with Frostbite
#9825 01/04/11 01:06 AM
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Our own Bee has achieved national fame!   ...Unfortunately not in the most ideal situation, though. frown

Here is her experience, as described in Sierra magazine:

SURVIVE | Gambling with Frostbite



SURVIVE | Gambling with Frostbite


My father and I have an arrangement for our mountain vacations: He gambles and I cross-country ski. Unfortunately, this time we picked a week of record snowfall in which to pursue our passions. After three miserable snowbound days, we busted out — he went to the casino; I went to ski the backcountry near Lake Tahoe. —Shoshanna B.



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Dr. Gus Benner is Sierra Club Outings' medical adviser.

"Shoshanna's priority should've been to get back to civilization. Alcohol makes you feel warm, but in bringing more blood to the surface, it increases heat loss and your risk of hypothermia, and it may also impair judgment and physical performance. The longer skin stays cold, the worse the frostbite will be. Don't try to rewarm the skin in the wilderness if there's any chance it might freeze again. Also, don't try warming via physical abrasion or by rubbing skin with snow: The fastest way is immersion in warm—not hot!—water, up to 104 degrees."

Illustrations by Koren Shadmi




Bee's own words:  Happy Holidays (...and remember: booze and frostbite do not mix well!)

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Steve C #9833 01/04/11 11:12 AM
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In the first frame, our intrepid heroine appears to be searching in the creek for something. A froggy?


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wagga #9839 01/04/11 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: wagga
In the first frame, our intrepid heroine appears to be searching in the creek for something. A froggy?


Naw, I was looking for a Subaru! shocked


The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.
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Bee #9840 01/04/11 03:52 PM
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Enough! It bee time to watch a movie.

Perhaps the "Unbearable Lightness Of Beeing"


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Steve C #9841 01/04/11 05:08 PM
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I tought you would bee wearing torquoise. smile

Thanks for sharing your experience.

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wazzu #9842 01/04/11 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: wazzu
I tought you would bee wearing torquoise. smile

Thanks for sharing your experience.


I was!! In the original old picture that I sent to them, I was wearing a turquoise turtleneck, but they changed it to red...go figure.

Beecause I have black hair, my mum always dressed me in either hot pink or turquoise, so I got used to wearing those colors.

BTW, this happened about 20 some years ago.


The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.
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Bee #9843 01/04/11 05:33 PM
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yeah, I thought you looked young in that cartoon

hahahaha

sorry, couldn't help it.

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Typical male behavior in frame three.

Trying to take advantage of a beeautiful lady in distress.

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catpappy #9847 01/04/11 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: catpappy
Typical male behavior in frame three.

Trying to take advantage of a beeautiful lady in distress.


Those were my father's words, too! (he was not a happy camper)


The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.
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Harvey Lankford #9848 01/04/11 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: Harvey Lankford
yeah, I thought you looked young in that cartoon

hahahaha

sorry, couldn't help it.



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The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.
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Bee,
which creek did you fall in?

I grew up in Tahoe and had one brush with a winter (almost) tragedy.

I fell through some rotten ice on the "lagoon" (one of the tahoe keys back canals that is closed to boat traffic). I tried climbing back on to the ice...first both hands, then one knee and then I would try to lift myself onto the ice....and break through....did this about 8 times. All the time I could hear my brother and his buddies laughing in the background. After breaking through the ice the eigth time, I was too tired to try again. I had resigned to my fate that was was going to die. And I let go of the ice. I dropped quickly to the bottom....which was only about 5' deep....we were in the middle of the big drought in the late 70s and the water level was real low...I could stand....still freezing my butt off, I was quite relieved that I wasn't going to die. Then my brother yelled at me "turn around!". I had made a trail of broken ice about 10' long. Where I had originally fallen in was only 3' from the edge (it had an immediate dropoff). If I had simply turned around I could have climbed out on the rocks. That was why my brother and his buddies were laughing so hard.

Still, I was soaking wet and had about two miles to walk to get home....it took what seemed like hours for the shivers to stop once I finally got home.

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tdtz #9850 01/04/11 09:03 PM
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I do not know the name of the creek, but it was actually in the Kirkwood vacinity. It was the first and only time that I had tried out this new area, so I was not familiar with it.


The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.
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Bee #9853 01/05/11 03:42 AM
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if Bee will forgive me,
I'll tell a frozen creek story from the Appalachians that happened one February

A fellow scoutmaster was alone, and slipped and fell into an ice covered creek. He got out okay, but had dislocated his shoulder. His arm was sticking straight up, he was soaked, chilled, in pain, night was coming, alone, and was 2 miles from his car. He did get back there, but found he could not drive the car with his arm sticking straight up into the ceiling. (Hearing this story after it was all over we were all unfairly laughing about this part). He started walking and after some long time a pickup truck came by. He got a ride in the back bed, to accommodate his awkward anatomy
(more laughter). It turned out well, but it could have been a lot worse. I'm glad Bee and Bob survived.

Harvey

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Bee #9854 01/05/11 03:56 AM
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Bee, did you ever find an acceptable method to keep your hands warm in cold weather? I know you were searching for ideas last winter as that frostbite episode left you with hands that became uncomfortably cold very quickly, but I can't remember if you landed on a solution among all the suggestions thrown around.


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Bulldog34 #9870 01/05/11 04:35 PM
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Doggie,

I ended up using down mittens for the most successful solution. They were MOST useful on the Whitney sleepover, where it was a reported 20F overnight (I slept with the mitties on)

This year, I purchased some LL Bean down gloves, so we will see how those work out in a week or so.

Harvey; I can probably speak for Bob in saying that we are glad that we lived to tell...


The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.
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Bee #9871 01/05/11 04:54 PM
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Bee, (sorry if this has been asked before) have you tried using the hand warmer packets inside your gloves??

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Steve C #9873 01/05/11 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: Steve C
Bee, (sorry if this has been asked before) have you tried using the hand warmer packets inside your gloves??


I received a bunch for the holidays, so I am going to give them a try (maybe this week;it has been below 30F)


The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.

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