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Posted By: RoguePhotonic Grinnell Lake - 04/20/10 08:11 AM
Has anyone ever been to Grinnell Lake which is West of Pioneer Basin up the Laurel Creek Trail?

I'm considering a detour to it this summer and I can't seem to find a single image of it to see if it's worthy of spending an extra day on.
Posted By: Steve C Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/20/10 03:49 PM
I had to go look it up since I haven't heard the name. Given the state of the Forest Service budgets, that trail might even be hard to find.

But I bet it would be a nice place to see -- doubt you would see a soul at all. And it would be cool to get to the top of Red and White Mtn -- I think it is a pretty rugged and colorful peak looking from the Mammoth side.
Posted By: CaT Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/20/10 04:46 PM
RP,

Here's the results of a search on Flickr for "Grinnell Lake".
Looks very nice, indeed! Trying viewing as a full screen slideshow.

Edit - Well, after scrolling through a ton of pics on this slideshow, I ran into one with a reference to Glacier Natl Park (and I'm pretty sure all the other pics are of the same lake and area). So maybe the wrong Grinnell Lake came up in my search.

CaT
Posted By: Ken Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/20/10 05:07 PM
Great photos,CaT, unfortunately, the wrong lake! Those are in Montana, he's asking about the one in Ca, below Red and White Mountain.

I was up there when my group did the first ascent of the N face of Mt Hopkins. Beautiful lake, in a desolate rocky alpine setting (if you like that!)

Here's a picture of Red and White, and Grinnell lake:

Posted By: CaT Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/20/10 05:09 PM
Yeah ... just discovered that about the time you posted.
Oh, well...
Posted By: Steve C Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/20/10 05:20 PM
Wow, the one in Montana is beautiful!

I did a Google Image search using the string:
    "grinnell Lake" sierra -glacier

and found this picture from this thread in High Sierra Topix.  There is one more picture of Grinnell Lake just below that one in the thread.



And a second from that thread, titled "Looking back at Red & White"




Ken, you participated in that thread from High Sierra Topix, about hiking with a badly bleeding shin.
Posted By: Ken Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/20/10 05:59 PM
I'd completely forgotten about the discussion.
Posted By: RoguePhotonic Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/20/10 08:28 PM
Thanks for the info, I had almost noted the fact that there was the other lake in Glacier National Park since I found it while trying to search.

This is one reason why I like taking lots of pictures and labeling them the best I can to have an archive of locations in the Sierra.

I think i'll go to Grinnell Lake from VVR and then to Pioneer Basin and resume.
Posted By: wagga Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/20/10 09:46 PM
WR is ?? - should it go in the acronym list?

Oh VVR - never mind.
Posted By: Steve C Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/20/10 09:57 PM
And VVR ( V.V.R ) stands for Vermillion Valley Resort, the name of the outfit at Edison Lake running the ferry and restaurant/resort. In most fonts, VVR looks like WR.

They have a web site, http://www.edisonlake.com/
Posted By: Bee Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/21/10 05:02 AM
Hi Steve,

The peaks in this area are familiar from my Pioneer Basin trip; how far away is it from the PB? I loved the area; the meadows and mini lakes were just soooo sweet (thanks Laura!)

B
Posted By: Steve C Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/21/10 06:09 AM
Grinnell Lake is just two miles due west of the Pioneer Basin, but there are two ridges (11.5 to 12k) and a 10.5k valley in between.

Here's a MyTopo link. Be sure to click the "MyTopo" button in the upper right corner of the map so you can see the contours.
Posted By: Bee Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/21/10 06:31 AM
Excellent -- thanks, Steve! I specifically remember standing by one of the lakes and staring up at Hopkins, so I know exactly which direction the area you speak of would be. It is funny, though, that one would never envision a whole other valley/ridge beyond what I could see. It was my first time to the SeKi area, so I was overwhelmed by the recesses and personalized mini-lakes.

Laura's pictures of the Pioneer Basin area:
Pioneer Basin

B
Posted By: RoguePhotonic Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/21/10 06:36 AM
I wasn't planning a cross country trek to Pioneer Basin, i'll just go back to the trail and go that way, it's only like 11 miles from Grinnell Lake to Pioneer Basin, i'll probably make the 0.4 mile detour to see what Laurel Lake looks like also.

Since my loop East from VVR was only 4 days to MTR I thought might as well add another detour. smile
Posted By: Ken Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/21/10 06:50 AM
The trip from vvr is a great way to go. Pioneer Basin seems to be "the" place to go in the region. personally, I like the Fourth Recess, for many reasons: the beautiful lake, the wonderful waterfall, the last place Norman Clyde camped in the Sierra. Lotsa history up Mono Creek.

By the way, if you have Secor, he has the shortcut I described to him for getting from the jct with the PCT up Mono Creek, rather than the trail, which is a mile out of the way and extra climbing. (I was a volunteer ranger in this area)

The owner of VVR is Jim Clement, my old hiking and climbing partner. He's a great guy, and the resort is a kick, if you've never been there. More of a rustic ranch.
Posted By: Bee Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/21/10 08:08 AM
I completely agree with you, Ken, that Fourth Recess is impossibly beautiful. In one location, all of the scenic and photographic ingredients are in check. I found the mystery and depth of the recesses to be most intriguing.

B
Posted By: RoguePhotonic Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/21/10 09:08 PM
Got any good photos from the Fourth Recess? seeing is believing! =P

Do you consider Fourth Recess Lake to be the highlight or do you travel all the way up to Snow Lakes?
Posted By: wagga Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/21/10 09:22 PM
On a TSDH from RCC to VVR you see all four Recesses in one day.
4th. is unbelievably beautiful.
Posted By: Steve C Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/22/10 12:26 AM
Ummm wagga....

Give 'em a break on the acronyms. wink

TSDH = Trans-Sierra Day Hike
RCC = Rock Creek Complex
VVR = Vermillion Valley Resort (aka Edison Lake)
Posted By: RoguePhotonic Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/22/10 01:00 AM
It's all good unless we start using Lolspeak! cry
Posted By: wagga Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/22/10 01:22 AM
That trail is also known as TNEEVOF. (The Never-Ending Elastic Valley Of Infinity).
Posted By: Ken Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/22/10 06:07 AM
Fourth Recess Lake and the (I think ) 1,000 foot waterfall at the far end:

Posted By: Ken Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/22/10 06:09 AM
For those who have the time, this photo essay/trip report takes the reader through all 4 recesses, up Pioneer Basin, over the ridges....and down into the Grinnell Lake recess:

One of my favorite TR's of all time Here

Posted By: Bee Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/22/10 06:54 AM
I agree, Ken -- one of the best trip reports that I have had the pleasure of reading. I appreciate the author's lack of flourish,all the while, still including incredible descriptions/photos and even a couple of recipes. I will consider this TR a fine template should I ever be inspired to write one, myself.
Posted By: Rod Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/22/10 09:32 PM
Ken that is a SPECTACULAR photo!!!What a great wall hanging that would make.
Posted By: RoguePhotonic Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/23/10 12:20 AM
Well I plan to layover a day in Pioneer Basin so I suppose I could hike over to the Fourth Recess Lake and back, i'll have to see how I feel.

At this point I think I need to put a cap on adding more days into this hike, I have already crossed the 60 day mark. crazy
Posted By: RoguePhotonic Re: Grinnell Lake - 04/23/10 04:27 AM
Had a chance to read that trip report and I agree it was done quite well. Very beautiful locations!

I think I will go ahead and take the cross country route over the same ridge he did between Grinnell Lake and Lower Hopkins Lake, looks to be worth it.
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