Now, now, Rod, one is a backcountry slum, other a backcountry ghetto...between May 1 and November 1. Get your designations right.

Most of the people you speak to one the westside will tell you they go all the way to the Portal, rather than put up with the crowds at Trail Camp or Outpost Camp. Considering what I saw this past weekend, if I had two broken legs I would walk all the way out.