Are permits needed to dayhike to Meysan Lake; or to camp overnight at Lone Pine Lake? Inyo Forest Service site indicates a quota on Meysan lake/trail; however I haven't read of any mention of a permit needed.
Lone Pine Lake is at the Whitney area boundry; so is a permit needed to camp overnight? Lower Boy Scout Lake seems to fall into the same grey area. One can day hike to LBS w/o a Whitney permit; but can one camp there? Its an option on the NF overnight permit on recreation.gov; so I'm confused.

I'm looking to do familiarization hikes or options if I can't get walk-in permits in late July or August; and these three destinations work great.