Yeah, when I said camp at Cottonwood Lakes, I was actually referring to that entire vicinity. Where we actually camp, I don't know - we planned on scoping things out when we got there.

I suggested doing NAP for Cirque, and then OAP the next day for Langley to my friend. He is concerned about the route finding on OAP if we're going up in the dark. I think there's enough beta on this site to easily do it during the day, we're just not sure how smart it is to attempt in darkness.

Steve had a good point though - it will probably start getting light out as we get to the top of the pass.

Thanks for the input, much appreciated!