wbtravis,

I wouldn't try the bowl with Microspikes either. I was asking about K-10 or KTS Hiking Crampons, which are somewhere between Microspikes and mountaineering crampons.

http://www.hikinggeek.com/2015/01/09/kahtoolas-winter-traction-devices/

I now have Kahtoola Microspikes and CAMP Stalker Universal Crampons (very similar to BD Contact Straps) that I purchased with my own money. I also have Hillsound Trail Crampons and Kahtoola K10 Hiking Crampons that were sent to me from the mfg for review. Part of what I am trying to do is figure out what the reasonable/safe limits are of each product and as well as how they overlap/work with each other.

Last weekend did you go Up Big Draw then down through the divide?

When I said clothing, I meant gaiters. blush I don't go play in the snow without them.