Thanks for the info. I've done bouldering pretty much every day in college and my highest toproping grade is a 5.10b. But I don't think I've ever done any real class 3 stuff. A few of my friends have done mid pal in the past and that looks very fun, and I would love to do it this August. Perhaps that would give me a taste of the Final 400?

I've heard that the final 400 can be avoidable by traversing across the snow, but I've gotten more comfortable with rock stuff. I don't think I would be able to do that last year, but now it doesn't seem to bad. Do you know the best time to go to avoid the final 400 being iced up?

Last edited by climby_climber; 07/05/20 12:36 AM.