Thanks Steve. I remember you mentioning that trip over the Russell-Carillon Pass to Lake Tulainyo. I carried an overnight pack to that pass, but never to the lake... and yes, carrying that up the scree is not easy. I've chatted with others up there on different trips, and a few have done something like what I described, but they may have come from a different direction (via Wallace Lake and beyond). I can't remember.

I figure those George Creek permits must be there for a reason (who would bushwhack to nowhere?). If I go that way, and succeed, I'll post tracks.