Kevin,

In responding to Ken's post, are you disagreeing with his "too early" opinion of a 3am start time from Trail Crest or 3am from the Portal? I know Ken mentioned 3am from Trail Crest, but your response to that almost sounds like you thought he was referring to starting at 3am from the Portal. Can you clarify? Just curious. Thanks.

CaT

If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracle of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it.
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