Originally Posted By: wagga
Down jackets are named that way because you very rarely need to wear them on the way up.


I don't think I'll be wearing it on the way up. The key question for me is - do I want an XL to fit over everything, or an L to fit over the layers minus the hardshell. My hardshell will never fit over everything, nor do I need it to. The down jacket I am looking at will be water resistant as well.

The thought was to get something that if I should get extremely cold on extended trips, I can just sit aroound wearing every piece of clothing I brought, but I guess an extra layer of long underwear or a thicker fleece will do the job. XL seems like the choice that does it all, but I think a jacket that fits too loosely when worn with less layers may not be as warm as one that fits. Right or wrong?

going to REI today to do some trying on of different brands, with all layers and with just a few.