Anthony, not sure about your situation, but the no-shows become available at 11 AM, not 8 AM. And there should be enough no-shows so you get what you need.
However, if you already have permit reservations, you can pick them up at 8 am ...or even the day before.
(And if you need to add one or two people and ask nicely, they might be nice and issue them. Not sure about this, though.)
