Ken! I just checked the fleece pants that I run in (yeah, I was thinking how could fleece chafe???) and there IS a nasty, scratchy seam that would pass over the areas mentioned when I walk fast or run (one in in the same!). It is the side seam, so my hiking pants have the same seam, also. It is really pathetic that I have this princess physiology (frostbite, chafing, heart condition) that I am tying to get to adapt to beeing ruggedly outdoorsy. I will continue to use the Body Glide an Vaseline (the Vaseline stopped the progress towards bleeding, last year) and I will see if I can find some seamless hiking pants (also, I noticed that when I wore thermals, I had no problems, either)

Bee


The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.