I was aware of one of those threads, now I see the other.

I think Steve has done a good job bringing controversial threads to a conclusion before people start hating each other.
With the country so strongly polarized, and this being an election year, any political topic can easily spin out of control on any forum. We have a common appreciation of Mt Whitney, the mountains, and wilderness, that should be good enough. I love to vent and debate as much as anyone, but this isn't the place.

Sad times we live in but it is what it is. Two separate universes with completely different world views. Facts don't seem to matter and opinions are mostly carved in granite.