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 Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ?
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So,
If government is "shutdown" can we still pick up our permits?
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Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ?
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Wherever you go, there you are. SPOTMe!
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Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ?
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The offices are shuttered.
Who will be there to enforce the anything? You can run yellow barrier tape across the various trailheads and post temporary signage but that comes down in about 5 seconds when no one is around.
My guess is volunteers will still show up and help, unless ordered by the forest service to stand down.
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No answer on the wilderness permit telephone number.
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Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ?
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Call me crazy (or maybe even logical) but if the government is shut down, then why would we need a permit to hike? They created the permit system, so if they're not there to enforce it, then it's open season for hikers!
It's a damn mountain. How can you close it? I can't believe the government is even involved in my outdoor activities in the first place. I wish I was in the Sierras so I could hike Whitney without a permit today.
This is a political stunt. It's really shameful.
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I've gone through all the red tape, had my permit since April, and took the time off of work for my trip planned for tomorrow through Friday... I'm climbing that mountain.
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SR 120
[IN THE CENTRAL CALIFORNIA AREA & SIERRA NEVADA]
IS CLOSED FROM CRANE FLAT TO 5 MI WEST OF THE JCT OF US 395 /TIOGA PASS/
(TUOLUMNE, MONO CO) - DUE TO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN - MOTORISTS ARE
ADVISED TO USE AN ALTERNATE ROUTE
I had no idea they'd close a public road...
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Re: Is permit office open if government is "shutdown" ?
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> SR 120 closed
Well, it goes through Yosemite National Park, where the Yosemite rangers provide all and the only public safety support. So when they aren't working, I guess the only thing to do is close the road.
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Sr 120 in that area is on federally owned and protected lands. It IS s toll road.
@jjoshuagregory (Instagram) for mainly landscape and mountain pics
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Hopefully, the shutdown will not affect Whitney Portal road/area.
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If a hiker hikes in the forest and there is no one there to see him, is he there?
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Forget about the permits. Where will I get my wag bags?
Brent N
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Zip locks and Cat litter 
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There are plenty of bags on the trail  . Just remember to bring it down when you are done using it.
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Found this on Facebook: Mt. Whitney Portal CampgroundWhitney Portal Road, Lone Pine, California 93545
(760) 937-6070
September 29 via mobile
Hello Everyone just to let all of you know that the Federal Government Shut - down will not impact our operations we will conduct business as usual. We will leave the camping,fishing & hiking up to you lol just remember it is cool at Night up at Whitney so bring your cold weather gear.
Richard R:
The reservation web site is down as well. How can we find out if there are any camp sites available?
Campground:
Mt. Whitney Portal Campground OPEN,OPEN,OPEN are we all Campgrounds open up here in the INYO'S so keep coming I believe the campground hosts are unpaid volunteers, so they are still operating.
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If I had plans for a trip in National Forest land, I'd still be going. If you did run into a ranger, what's he gonna do: slap on the handcuffs? I'd be polite, but not necessarily turn around and head back to the trailhead. And if I encountered a volunteer, I'd say, "I appreciate what you're doing, but the FOREST isn't closed; the USFS is." That's a bureaucratic issue resulting from a few jackasses in Washington saying, "If we don't get our way, then everybody will suffer the consequences." That's not governing in a responsible manner; it's pouting and being obstinate.
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And, BTW, I'm sure most people know, but SR 120/Tioga Road is a STATE highway, not federal. I get why it's closed, but just one more aggravating piece of this mess.
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And, BTW, I'm sure most people know, but SR 120/Tioga Road is a STATE highway, not federal. I get why it's closed, but just one more aggravating piece of this mess. This news story is on the KCET website here http://www.kcet.org/living/travel/socal_wanderer/briefs/we-apologize-for-the-potential.html. Hwy 120 is open. Only travelers between the two sides of the park can gain access, a sigh of relief for those heading to or from the Eastern Sierra (even though snow usually closes Tioga Road in October). "Visitors passing through the Park to reach another destination (i.e. Mammoth Lakes, Tahoe, etc.) will be able to do so on a designated 'thruway' such as Hwy. 120 or 41," read a letter from Terry Selk of the Yosemite/Mariposa County Tourism Bureau. "Stopping or recreating will be prohibited."Caltrans changed their website as well: SR 120 [IN THE CENTRAL CALIFORNIA AREA & SIERRA NEVADA] 1-WAY CONTROLLED TRAFFIC AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS FROM THE SOUTH JCT OF US 395 TO 5.6 MI EAST OF THE SOUTH JCT OF US 395 (MONO CO) FROM 0700 HRS TO 1700 HRS MONDAY THRU WEDNESDAY THRU 10/2/13 - DUE TO CONSTRUCTION - MOTORISTS ARE SUBJECT TO DELAYS OF UP TO 20 MINUTES IS REOPENED FROM CRANE FLAT TO 5 MI WEST OF THE JCT OF US 395 /TIOGA PASS/ (TUOLUMNE, MONO CO) AT 0930 HRS ON 10/1/13 [YOSEMITE NAT'L PARK] FOR YOSEMITE NAT'L PARK ROAD INFORMATION CALL 209-372-0200
Last edited by RichardK; 10/01/13 01:58 PM.
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Is there the possibility that the Portal Road will be closed the weekend? Hiking without a permit is one thing but the additional mileage up the road is a concern.
Per a conversation with the Portal Store employee, the road is currently open but does the Fed have the capability to deny access to the Portal parking lot?
Talk about the last thing I thought I would have to plan for in doing this hike
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Ironically, today marks Yosemite's 123rd birthday as a national park. I guess it gets to take the day off.
Brent N
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