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Forest Closure
#59237 08/30/21 03:32 PM
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I just got this response when I tried to get my permits for my hike that starts Sept 1:

Inyo National Forest is being closed due to extreme fire conditions throughout the state of California. Wilderness permits with an entry date of September 1 through September 17 are being canceled. You will receive a refund of reservation fees automatically through recreation.gov when your permit is canceled.

Anyone else get this message yet?

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bsample #59238 08/30/21 03:34 PM
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Yes I just got one. OV campsite closed.

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BTheHiker #59239 08/30/21 04:31 PM
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I am so bummed - this is now 2 years in a row. I'm scrambling now to come up with a plan B....

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bsample #59240 08/30/21 04:51 PM
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I got a refund for my campsite at Whitney Portal and for my Whitney Wilderness permit too! It took longer for them to process that one.


Anyhow stay safe everyone. This is the first clear day in Truckee due to the winds, but all my friends in SLT are trying evacuate out of the path of the Caldor fire. I am reviewing my own fire evacuation plan, over and over again. Crazy stuff....

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bsample #59241 08/30/21 06:04 PM
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Same here. Just got a cancellation/refund email for River Trail (Sep 13-15). What a bummer ... I was looking forward to acclimate on a fun hike with friends before my 50 mile Rae Lakes loop run from OV. There are no active fires near the Ansel Adams wilderness but it is understandable that they want to play it safe and mobilize the resources for other affected areas. We had the same group trip cancelled last year.

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bsample #59243 08/30/21 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bsample
I am so bummed - this is now 2 years in a row. I'm scrambling now to come up with a plan B....

I asked last year if this was going to become an annual thing. Seems like there is no point in planning trips August-October anymore. I was planning on heading up to the White Mountains this weekend, but since it is Inyo National Forest, it is technically closed, even if there are no fires anywhere nearby as far as I know.

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Louie #59244 08/30/21 10:42 PM
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Also, does anyone know how this affects National Parks. Most trips to National Parks require you to travel through National Forests to get there, right?

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Louie #59245 08/31/21 06:30 AM
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Looks like the parks are not impacted by the forest closure at this point but, assume that could change. Planning Yosemite in a couple weeks so watching closely.

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Louie #59247 08/31/21 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Louie
Also, does anyone know how this affects National Parks. Most trips to National Parks require you to travel through National Forests to get there, right?

When a National Forest is closed, you can't drive on the "forest roads", which are usually the dirt roads. The paved highways should be ok to drive ...as long as there isn't a forest fire burning near by.

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Louie #59249 08/31/21 10:15 AM
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National Parks aren’t necessarily affected by the closure.

For sure SEQUOIA KINGS is not closed per their Twitter
https://twitter.com/sequoiakingsnps/status/1432742499777335300?s=21

Unsure of YOSEMITE or others.

Sorry for the weird Caps.


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Snacking Bear #59250 08/31/21 11:14 AM
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The only problem is that all trails leading to SEKI from the Eastern side are in the Inyo jurisdiction and they are all closed till Sep 18th, according to recreation.gov. Well ... at least they are refunding the permit fees, and there are plenty of available permits for Sep 18 onward.

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Snacking Bear #59251 08/31/21 12:31 PM
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Yosemite posted to facebook that they too remain open. This only affects National Forests, not national parks, state parks or other parks no ton Nat'l Forest Land.

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tif #59252 08/31/21 09:30 PM
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From the Forest Service News Release:

"USDA Forest Service Temporarily Closing All California National
Forests for Public Safety
VALLEJO, Calif., — August 30, 2021. To better provide public and firefighter safety
due to the ongoing California wildfire crisis, USDA Forest Service Pacific Southwest
Region is announcing a temporary closure of all National Forests in California. This
closure will be in effect from Aug. 31, 2021 at 11:59 p.m. through September 17, 2021
at 11:59 p.m. This order does not affect the Humboldt-Toiyabe National Forest, which is
not in the Pacific Southwest Region."

Note that the parts of the Bridgeport and Carson districts of the H-T National Forest that are in CA are not included in this order, so some of the east side Sierra is accessible. From 395 this starts north of Conway Summit

Dale B. Dalrymple

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dbd #59253 08/31/21 09:59 PM
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I wouldn't count on them being reopened September 18. More likely they will stay closed until it cools down this fall, and camping season is over for most people.

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Louie #59254 09/01/21 07:15 AM
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So... National Parks such as Kings Canyon, Sequoia, and Yosemite are all open and permits therein remain valid.

Many folks on thru-hikes currently through these jurisdictions will have to exit via closed areas on USDA lands. PCT hikers have been forced to cancel weeks ago, I know that. But theoretically, JMT or HST hikers may still be able to do NPS portions of their hikes for now.

Has anyone heard if folks STARTING permits at NPS trailheads (e.g. like Happy Isles on the JMT or Crescent Meadows on the HST) will be able to start their existing permits after this closure if their itineraries will pass through or exit USDA (USFS/BLM) lands?

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Snacking Bear #59269 09/10/21 09:15 AM
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Any rumors or educated guesses on the probability of the closure being extended past the 17th?

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RickR #59272 09/11/21 04:24 PM
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I believe closure will be extended past Sept 17th. Forest Service Management looks for ways to keep closure in place rather than open.

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foxtrot #59273 09/12/21 02:00 PM
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I guess we shall see how this plays out, however, I just made reservations for Kearsarge Pass on September 23.

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foxtrot #59275 09/15/21 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by foxtrot
I believe closure will be extended past Sept 17th. Forest Service Management looks for ways to keep closure in place rather than open.

The Forest Service is ending the closure Thursday, two days early. Forest Service management found a way to open, rather than keep the closure in place.

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bobpickering #59276 09/15/21 01:16 PM
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Great news for those of us that still have permits this season.


Release Date: Sep 14, 2021

Please see news release from the region below:

We are pleased to announce that the Inyo will re-open with no closures in place. This means the forest will be open on Thursday, September 16.

As a reminder, Stage II fire restrictions are still in place on the Inyo and many of our neighboring jurisdictions. That means no campfires, even in developed recreation sites. Visitors with a valid California Campfire permit may use a portable stove or lantern using gas, jellied petroleum, or pressurized liquid fuel.

It is only September and we still have a long way to go in this fire year. Do your part to prevent a wildland fire here. The availability of firefighters and equipment is seriously taxed and our firefighters, once again, have been on assignments for an extended period now away from their homes and loved ones. Let’s do our best to help them come back home as early as possible and to protect the communities and the forests we dearly love in the Eastern Sierra.

As always, wilderness permits will not be issued for areas where closures are in effect. Visitors should know before they go and safely plan their trips around areas that closures, uncontained fires, active fire, and smoke in the area.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/inyo/news-events/?cid=FSEPRD953063

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