Kent, I haven't met you, but that sounds great. I just don't want to horn in on your free time. I have not done any real climbing since the mid 80's and even then it was easy stuff. I have been wanting to ease back into it, but I'll be a little limited in my pursuit. Three years ago I suffered a complete rupture of the long head of my right bicep. I'm in good shape now with just a little weakness in that arm. It is very easy for me to get time off, so I'm up for anything.

And don't worry, I'm risk adverse by nature so my only involvement with Whitesides will be looking at it. I do like the way you described it though. For some reason Gary thinks all mountains east of the Rockies are wimps.

John