The saddest part about what you're telling us DUG is this.... that leader is going to get those boys out there they're going to be miserable (I remember "full gear" for Mom and I the first time we tried backpacking.. which was our first trip on Whit... we had 40+lbs each)... anyways, the boys are going to be miserable and unable to carry all their weight the entire hike... the adults are going to have to carry the extra gear and get pissy... long and short of it.. no one is going to have fun and some of those boys are never going to want to have anything to do with hiking/backpacking again...
Either that... or someone is going to have to be airlifted out because they get hurt, or snakebit, or heat injured... and then we'll (The BSA) will be another headline and statistic...
