I got to say I am glad I joined this board. The amount of mis-information one receives is huge, even with all the research I have done and people I have talked to, it is hard to pick the right info from the wrong. I am going to take your word for it since you seem like the "man" around these parts, so Steve, thanks for all the info.

Just spoke to the wife, we are going to rearrange the days a bit and do as you suggest. Spend the night at Horshoe meadows, on the 7th and 8th, pick up the permit and hit Outpost camp on the 9th. Summit on the 10th and back to outpost camp, drive back Monday.

Great news is we found a sitter for our little dude (21 months) so my wife will be joining us too. Good thing I requested 3 permits. She can also help haul some of stuff up. I can feel my pack weight getting lighter as I type this.