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Re: Old Army & New Army Pass current conditions fit2climb 07/07/25 02:11 PM
OAP still has some snow on the upper end of the trail. NAP has a small passable snow bank at the last switchback.

I just returned from Rock Creek and the Upper Miter Basin near Crabtree Pass (July 3rd - 6th). The mosquitoes at Rock Creek are terrible, as is the entry into Miter Basin (swarms on the attack!).

Sky Blue Lake had a few bugs, but not many. Upper Lakes near Crabtree Pass had no bugs.

I forgot how nasty the bugs are in early summer in the Sierra. I usually wait to hike deep into the Sierra from late August to October to avoid the swarms of blood-thirsty mosquitoes.

Hope this helps!
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Re: Onion Valley CG to Whitney Portal questions Erhard 07/07/25 09:05 AM
Thank you very much for your help!
Regards Erhard
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Re: Onion Valley CG to Whitney Portal questions WanderingJim 07/05/25 03:33 PM
There are some spots to the east of Guitar Lake if you want to avoid the crowds or the crowds have taken every little flat spot around the lake. Just look around.

There are also some small Bivy sites at the trail junction where the JMT and Whitney Trail merge before going the final 1.9 miles up to the Summit. You can camp there if your tent isn't too big and you're okay camping at 13,300 feet (not everyone is).

Or just drop your extra gear at the trail junction and go to the summit with water and snacks needed. Make sure any food is in your bear canister. No bears up there, but at least one Marmot that will do a full search of your bag contents. ????
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Re: Old Army & New Army Pass current conditions TBird78 07/04/25 01:56 PM
Thanks for starting this topic this season and providing updates, Fit2Climb!

Does anyone have a recent report on the snow conditions of NAP or OAP? How have the bugs been so far in the Rock Creek and Crabtree drainages?

Thanks for keeping the conversation going.

-TBird
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Re: Onion Valley CG to Whitney Portal questions TBird78 07/04/25 01:42 PM
Hi Erhard,

You’ve selected a great route. I suggest camping around Whitney Creek or Guitar Lake and packing everything up when you set out to climb Whitney in the AM. Most people drop their packs at the intersection near Trail Crest and continue on to the summit. You’ll return from the summit, pick up your pack, then continue on down via Mt Whitney Trail. Or, just carry your pack the whole time.

Temperatures will be cool during the day and cold at night. I suggest a 20 degree bag/quilt and a down/synthetic insulation jacket, knit cap, and tights for nights (and days, if needed). Check weather and forecasts here: https://www.mountain-forecast.com/peaks/Mount-Whitney/forecasts/4418.

Enjoy your trip, be safe!

TBird
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Onion Valley CG to Whitney Portal questions Erhard 07/04/25 04:58 AM
Hello,
my name is Erhard, I am from Austria. I am planning to hike in the Whitney zone in early September. My starting point is Onion Valley CG, in 5 to 6 days I would like to do the route Kearsage Pass - Charlotte Lake - Forester Pass - Crabtree Ranger Station - Mt. Whitney - Whitney Portal. I've got an Inyo forest 'exiting Mt. Whitney' permit with starting at Kearsage pass so I think it is allowed. My planning is almost finished but I have a few questions.
- where is the last possible campsite before starting the hike to the summit of Mt. Whitney? Is it at guitar lake or is there another place after guitar lake? I would like to leave my tent there but when going down I don't want to hike back a longer distance to pick up my tent.
- How cold could it be in the night in that elevations in the first week of September? Is snow possible? Are thunderstorms or longer phases of bad weather possible?

To answer questions you may have: I have experience in hiking. Last year I did a rim to rim to rim hike in Grand Canyon for 5 days and two years ago I did a one week hike in the Austrian Alps. I also do often day hikes in our mountains. But I know the elevations around Mt. Whitney are extreme, so could altitude sickness be a problem?

thanks in advance!
regards Erhard
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Re: JMT Northbound with an Inyo permit? tif 06/12/25 10:49 PM
Depending on the timing of your trip and the kind of snow year - those higher passes are often snowed in much longer than Cottonwood as well. This year shouldn't be an issue though based on the lower snow year and how quickly much of the Sierra is melting out. but the snow on Army/New Army is often another piece to factor in along with overall mileage/gain plans. =)
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Re: JMT Northbound with an Inyo permit? Louie 06/12/25 06:49 PM
Got it. But they are both eligible for continuing on to the JMT, right?

In a 3 week hike, I don't know that 1,000 feet of extra climbing makes much of a difference, but I have not really looked into that much detail yet. smile Thanks!
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Re: JMT Northbound with an Inyo permit? fit2climb 06/12/25 03:29 PM
If you decide on the Cottonwood Lakes option, then you'll need to traverse either Old Army Pass (12,000ft) or New Army Pass (12,300ft), both of which are significantly higher in elevation compared to Cottonwood Pass (11,140ft). An advantage of Cottonwood Pass is that its trail connects with the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) right at the top of the pass. I find Cottonwood Pass to be a more manageable option compared to the other two passes, especially when carrying a heavy backpack up and over the pass.

Hope that helps!
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