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Re: 2 night options for exit - lottery
Steve C
03/29/24 05:29 AM
I won the lottery for July last week. I wanted to seek out ideas for exit points which are about 2-3 nights including summiting Mt Whitney ..
In other words, where can I exit from which can give me 2 nights on the trails. I looked up cottonwood lakes but that seems more of a 4 night. So I am looking for options where I can camp for 2-3 nights
Any advice or guidance or ideas appreciated… I assume you won a slot to enter the Mt Whitney main trail and spend a night (or any number of nights) in July. There just aren't many options for two nights, unless you simply take your time, and enter and exit at Whitney Portal. Other options, as in backpacking over Trail Crest and spending more nights pretty much involve at least 3 nights, and 4 if you don't want to go for long days. If you felt strong, you could do the Mt. Whitney hike, and spend an extra night, and climb Wotan's Throne, the peak just north of Trail Camp. From its summit, you get a grand view of Mt Whitney and the surrounding peaks.
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Re: Outpost or Trail Camp
Steve C
03/29/24 05:20 AM
Day 2 is a doozy... Part of that is due to the work required to haul all your stuff up the extra 2k elevation, and the worse conditions for sleeping. By sleeping at OC, you have the extra 2k, but without a heavy pack.
Why not try it out and see how much difference there is?
You could also throw in a little extra food, and spend two nights at OC. That would make the trip that much easier.
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Outpost or Trail Camp
Wiff
03/27/24 07:31 PM
Hi all. I have always done the overnight trip the same, but wondering if there's a better idea.
I always: Day 1: Hike from Portal to Trail Camp. Sleep at Trail Camp.
Day 2: Leave gear at Trail Camp and summit, return to Trail Camp to get stuff, and hike back to Portal. That day 2 is a doozy. A friend thinks it might be easier to sleep and leave gear at Outpost, so there's less to carry for a mile and a half or so. I think that that will just make the second day that much longer. What say y'all? Thanks.
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Re: 2 night options for exit - lottery
60North
03/26/24 03:46 PM
Might depend how far you’re comfortable traveling daily. We’ve done Cottonwood Pass to Chicken Springs Lake (overnight 1); to Rock Creek (overnight 2); Guitar Lake (overnight 3). Heading out over Cottonwood Pass to the PCT makes this 4 days, 3 nights from Whitney with some great hiking. Car shuttling took some planning. Overnighted in Lone Pine before setting out. Also several options along the way to shorten or lengthen individual days as you might need. We didn’t find a 2 night trip…I’d also be interested if ideas come up!
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2 night options for exit - lottery
HikerGirl111
03/26/24 01:12 PM
Hello all
I won the lottery for July last week. I wanted to seek out ideas for exit points which are about 2-3 nights including summiting Mt Whitney ..
In other words, where can I exit from which can give me 2 nights on the trails. I looked up cottonwood lakes but that seems more of a 4 night. So I am looking for options where I can camp for 2-3 nights
Any advice or guidance or ideas appreciated…
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Re: Lottery Results
Steve C
03/26/24 04:29 AM
I don't think adding an alternate would be possible after being awarded a slot (even unpaid-for). But it won't hurt to try, I suppose.
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Re: Lottery Results
Charlie
03/25/24 08:39 PM
I haven't accepted it yet since i have time until 4/21. If someone else wants to be part of it i can put their name/s as alternate leader. They could do the same with my name on their won lottery day
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Re: Lottery Results
Steve C
03/25/24 04:40 AM
Got 5/5 overnight for a 10 head group. Rather swap it for late June or Early July, if anyone is interested Reservations can't be swapped. You can only cancel a reservation. And then the slots you returned show up randomly sometime in the next 24 hours. The group leader, or alternate leader must carry the permit on the hike. If you swap a reservation to someone else, their name won't be on the permit.
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Re: First timer seeking advice
60North
03/25/24 12:33 AM
Not big campers, ended doing the night at Trail Camp. Didn’t sleep much, altitude didn’t help, but getting up early and hiking out before sunrise was also a treat. Couple 60+, even as 2 hour half-marathoners, and several longer hikes, treks, we figured we would be 16-20 hours on feet, and that was too long for us in a day. That’d be our slog. Many do it way faster. By memory Elbert is in the 10 miles, 4,000 feet range, Whitney is 20+ miles, 6,000 feet so offered us a little different challenge. We decided to drive through Yosemite, into Mammoth Lakes, motel overnight there @ 8,000 feet rather than camp at the Portal, save the tent night for Trail Camp. Drove into Portal early, started hiking 6:00 am-ish. Figured Portal to Trail Camp was decent enough acclimatization hiking. Summited next day with light daypacks, picked up the tent on the way down, hotel and hot shower by 8:00 pm or so. Trail Camp - well, not my total favorite, got some poor high country bathroom etiquette happening, but there’s space, wise choices can be made…. For us an overnight felt right afterwards, we wouldn’t have enjoyed a day hike so much. Many do it though, lot of trail runners. Whichever you choose, stay safe, enjoy your trip, it was a highlight of my hiking/trekking experiences. I’ll be back this summer to try Langley, we really enjoyed the Inyo, Lone Pine, Portal vibe, great people in great surroundings.
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Re: Whitney in EARLY OCTOBER
malman
03/25/24 12:31 AM
Hi Penny! We just got awarded permits for October 12th, 2024 and are pondering the same question you had. Did you end up doing the hike on October 6th? If so, how was it, any and all detail would be much appreciated!
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Re: Lottery Results
Louie
03/22/24 08:49 PM
Seems they have expanded the number of dates you can choose in recent years. I think this would result in more permits being won by people who ultimately don't want them. The website wins because they get to collect multiple lottery / reservation fees for the same spot.
I am starting to wonder if the Lottery is even worth entering, or I should just wait until the unclaimed reservations open up. Last year was the first time I tried the unclaimed reservations, and I had better luck with that than the lottery, they went quick, but not instantly gone if I remember. I think there was like 5-10 minutes to grab permits before most were taken.
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Re: Lottery Results
Steve C
03/22/24 07:21 PM
Eric J, you can always try for cancellations even with a paid reservation. If you get one, be sure to cancel the one in October.
Also, if the Inyo NF website is correct (it still shows 2023), the best time to grab un-paid-for reservations is at 7:00 a.m. Pacific Time. You have to be quick with your fingers to grab one, because they go fast.
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Re: First timer seeking advice
Steve C
03/22/24 07:19 PM
Looks like you're leaning toward a day hike. That is what many hikers do--you just need to be in good condition. Running those half-marathons helps.
The other is acclimatization. If you live at SLC, then you're already at 4k,so that gives you an advantage. Most hikers in CA live near sea level, so they are way more affected. I was going to recommend spending a night (maybe in your car) at Horseshoe meadows, but then I looked up the SLC elevation. That is likely why altitude has never been a problem.
For a day hike, start early, but not so early that you don't get enough sleep before the hike.
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Re: Lottery Results
bobpickering
03/22/24 05:01 PM
I got mine Friday morning. I applied for 75 different days. I got my 74th choice. They let you put that many options in now? I don't remember that. I put in for mostly July and August weekends knowing I probably would not win. And I did not. You can apply for up to 10 different “choices”. Each choice can be a single date or a range of dates. A range of dates can be as many consecutive days as you like. If you specify a range of dates, they give you the first available date in that range. I requested 10 ranges of 6-13 dates each. There were no openings in my first 9 ranges. I got June 19, the second date of my 10th range.
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