> Look at Yosemite Valley. I find it hard to identify anyone who thinks the development and the hordes are a good thing.

Ken, I stand here as Exhibit A.
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Ok, I sit here amazed. I can't fathom that anyone would favor a situation in which the traffic jams are worse than I experience in LA. Where there has been profound damage to features of the Valley, due to overuse and being overrun.

You will certainly find commercial interests that think if some is good, more is better....wider roads, more hotels, eliminate the meadows, cut the trees....make room for more, more, more.

I am in the camp that thinks they went over the top a long time ago.