Thanks for the help...I called the office on the 20th and of course, they told me that every date for the month of July is filled, but to keep watching the calendar for cancellations (crossing my fingers that we get lucky). If there is anyone out there with a group of 3 for July 24 and 25th that would switch for 2 permits, let me know! It would mean a lot to be able to do a "two brothers with their dad" trip.